$7,800 Electric Microcar?

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$7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by LockH » Jun 20 2017 7:11pm

$7,800 Electric Microcar? (Coming Soon To Europe From China):
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/20/78 ... ope-china/

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While Elon Musk and Tesla start the electric car revolution from the high end of the market, Chinese company CHJ Automotive plans to start from the low end.
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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by Hillhater » Jun 20 2017 11:03pm

well , we already have the Renault "Twizzy" , the Smart EV, Sparrow, etc etc..so what is new ?
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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by LockH » Jun 20 2017 11:18pm

Hehe... In November, 2011 Renault announced a price for their Twizzy in the UK as 6950 British pounds (currently about $8,781US). And that was in 2011. So, $7,800 might seem "cheap"... in 2017.
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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by Dauntless » Jun 20 2017 11:27pm

Hell, cheap compared to a stealth bomber, this with a roof for a rainy day.
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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by amberwolf » Jun 21 2017 4:25am

Mine's cheaper than either, and it has a roof, too. ;)

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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by The Toecutter » Jun 22 2017 11:23pm

This price is quite doable with a low voltage system(Say, 48V). I think they should try to make a streamliner though, considering aerodynamics is the least expensive way to add range. If half the cost of the car were to be in batteries, that would be a roughly 10 kWh pack of LiFePO4. With careful attention to efficiency, 100 miles range at 100 km/h could be possible on that. Keep the weight under 1500 lbs, and a 48V/650A AC setup could accelerate quite nicely. If it ended up with a CdA comparable to the Loremo AG, it may even have a continuous top speed of 90+ mph on flat ground without overheating the motor. Of course, it wouldn't come close to the efficiency of Cedric Lynch's recumbent motorcycle which only needs about 30 wh/mi to do 100 km/h. But figures of 100 wh/mi at highway speeds ARE possible for a 4-seater sedan. The Solectria Sunrise proved that in 1998. A cheap Chinese equivalent of a Solectria Sunrise would be the shit.

Without mass production, this $7,800 microcar will never happen. With it, it's not impossible. And I highly doubt this $7,800 microcar will approach anything close to those specs I mused about above, because its shape that tries to emulate a SMART car is terrible for aero. They should have looked to the Solectria Sunrise, GM Ultralight, Daihatsu UFE-III, Loremo AG, and other nicely-efficient cars for inspiration. This technology does offer wonderful possibilities with the car designed from the ground up as an EV to be an EV with good range and low cost, and not mimic the same tired old inefficient 3-box designs used in most ICE cars.

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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by LockH » Jun 23 2017 12:18am

Wonder if their little cars are destined for Paris, France...
http://www.chinaautoreview.com/pub/CARA ... x?ID=14240
CHJ Automotive to provide car sharing services in Paris with local operator Clem
by Lei Xing 2017-06-20

PARIS – Chinese smart EV startup CHJ Automotive and French time share rental operator Clem signed a cooperation intent at the Viva Technology 2017 conference here on June 16 where the two partners plan to set up a joint venture in Paris to provide free floating car sharing services.
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Re: $7,800 Electric Microcar?

Post by Dauntless » Jun 23 2017 12:39am

Doable, but it has to be wantable. Look at the GEM. Is that still $12k? What will this $7,800 car be REALLY?
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