Here come the clones..

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Here come the clones..

Post by dirkdiggler » Nov 29 2014 2:11am

Saw this on Aliexpress. Interesting board and a decent price shipped to the U.S. for $530. Looks like a 50mm motor? 8ah battery LifePO4
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You have to love this one :P :
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More pictures on the link:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Backfire ... 3.html?s=p

Couldn't grab a pic of the remote, but looks nice and small.

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Post by Hummina Shadeeba » Nov 29 2014 2:43am

That's an awesome deal! I'm imagining the costs to build something like that.
Battery 200 (lifepo is about that I think but then it says li-ion so maybe just 100)
Motor 40
Pulleys n motor mount minimum 60
Normal board 100
Transmitter receiver 30
Bms 50

So maybe you might just make it under their price. No remote pic. That pic at the end is so typical on alibaba. And then shipping will be a lot. I'm guessing as reduce loud as 100. I've gotten bike frames shipped from China for 100 and this will be a lot heavier

Is the search function here not the best? I'll search for something like movpak and get nothing...post it up and a genie has moved my post to the discussion from months ago.

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Post by drmacgyver » Nov 29 2014 3:17am

Hmm... sounds too good to be true. Great specs. Nice design. Skeptical...

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Post by brent » Nov 29 2014 4:34am

The fan grill looks exactly like the one on the FVT 120A car ESC.

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Post by Flexscoot » Nov 29 2014 7:25am

Nice board ! with a price in line with what it ought to be once the early time irrational frenzy settle down...

In you cost/price guess, you should differentiate consumer prices and industrial prices as there is ratio of at least 3 to 4 (for instance a longskate costs less than 20 usd, a 24v8Ah battery less than 80... and the small parts like motor mount or pulley account just for dollar once you invest in tooling/qtt)... and I imagine that Asian factories have much better costs than me.

Now that we have reached acceptable price level , the Eskate market will hopefully begins develop volume (in few years, such Eboard will probably cost around 250/300 usd)

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Post by tung256 » Nov 29 2014 7:26am

looks pretty good n the price is great!
thanks for the fyi

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Post by beto_pty » Nov 29 2014 9:52am

very nice board.. little skeptical on the specs but it could easily be hacked into one of ours...
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Post by psychotiller » Nov 29 2014 10:35am

Love the design and the price seems amazing. Hate those Veloz trucks.
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Post by dirkdiggler » Dec 01 2014 2:23am

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Don't know what remote you will actually get, but both look decent.
Found these pics off ebay. Someone in San Diego. Billy Ruff. Labeled as Street Devil. He has them listed for $800.
Here are the specs:
If you haven't tried an Electric Skateboard lately, you're missing out.

The days where Electric Skateboards weigh 40 pounds, cost $2000USD, have a range of 5 miles and break down frequently are over. We have partnered with the only factory that has advanced e-board technology to the point of affordability and performance. The Street Devil is the most advanced electric skateboard on the market today.

SPECIFICATIONS:

Motor Power 1200W
Working Voltage 24V
8 Ah Lithium-ion battery
20 MPH Top Speed
17 mile range
Recharge Time 2 hours
Radio Remote Control 2.4GHz
Grade Ability 30°
Net Weight 11 lb.
Weight Limit 230 lbs/207 kg
36"/92cm 9-ply Canadian Maple
7"/180mm Aluminum Alloy Gravity Casting Trucks 70*51mm
80% Rebound Wheels
ABEC-9 Speed Bearings
1" Carbon Steel Hardware
OS780 Grip tape
Compatible with all hardware in skateboard industry
Remote Controller Charging Cable
USB charging cable for the remote control
T Tool
Instructions
And vid:


Saw some other interesting stuff on EBay. Someone selling a DIY dual emt for $1100 and again someone selling plans to build an eboard for $10(pic below). He should post some pics of something a bit nicer, c'mon step up your game! The internet is a crazy place.
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Post by TheBeastie » Dec 01 2014 3:19am

dirkdiggler wrote:Saw this on Aliexpress. Interesting board and a decent price shipped to the U.S. for $530. Looks like a 50mm motor? 8ah battery LifePO4

More pictures on the link:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Backfire ... 3.html?s=p

Couldn't grab a pic of the remote, but looks nice and small.
I lack interest in eskates but I have ridden one at a EV show and it was a lot of fun.
Excuse me if I am fat and clueless but on that aliexpress URL if I do ctrl+f I cant find the words "LifePO4" or even "Ah" anywhere on that page, as you sure you get a battery?
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Post by tung256 » Dec 01 2014 6:14am

the ebay dude only has 1 rating.
and there's no warranty mentioned anywhere. i would be careful.

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Post by BShady » Dec 01 2014 7:35am

tung256 wrote:the ebay dude only has 1 rating.
and there's no warranty mentioned anywhere. i would be careful.
He most proberly bought the boards from the aliexpress website and is just re-selling them.

But dude 17mile range on a 8ah battery? Makes sense?

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Post by kimboviper » Dec 03 2014 12:53am

would like to see a real world review of it.... not from a reseller

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Post by mccloed » Dec 04 2014 12:04am

Looks like other U.S. companies are carrying this. Per-order basis right now.

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Post by BShady » Dec 04 2014 12:38am

mccloed wrote:Looks like other U.S. companies are carrying this. Per-order basis right now.
What do you mean?

You guys think it's worth a shot?

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Post by kimboviper » Dec 04 2014 2:43pm

how the hell are you supposed to know how much battery is left?

after buying many cheap chinese clones on ebay... i would not risk the $530 on it. No warranty and usually zero QA for most chinese clone products.

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Post by mccloed » Dec 04 2014 2:52pm

I took the leap and bought one. Probably wont have it for at least another week. I'm willing to be a guinea pig. :D

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Post by kimboviper » Dec 04 2014 3:01pm

good luck....please right a full review for us :)

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Post by Flexscoot » Dec 04 2014 3:24pm

Nice try.
Looking forward for the answer to Thebeast question about the battery...

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Post by psychotiller » Dec 04 2014 3:29pm

mccloed wrote:I took the leap and bought one. Probably wont have it for at least another week. I'm willing to be a guinea pig. :D
You mentioned US retailers...Who'd you buy it from? Definitely looking forward to your review "Guinea Pig Mccloed"!
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Post by mccloed » Dec 04 2014 3:39pm

I actually bought it from the eBay guy. He accepted a cheaper offer, which I did not expect. I also noticed his zero rating after I sent the offer. Oh well. I'm used to being a guinea pig.

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Post by psychotiller » Dec 04 2014 4:14pm

mccloed wrote:I actually bought it from the eBay guy. He accepted a cheaper offer, which I did not expect. I also noticed his zero rating after I sent the offer. Oh well. I'm used to being a guinea pig.

I'm crossing a couple of fingers for you!
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Post by BShady » Dec 04 2014 6:20pm

psychotiller wrote:
mccloed wrote:I actually bought it from the eBay guy. He accepted a cheaper offer, which I did not expect. I also noticed his zero rating after I sent the offer. Oh well. I'm used to being a guinea pig.

I'm crossing a couple of fingers for you!
Toes crossed!!! It definitely looks very appealing!

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Post by kimboviper » Dec 04 2014 7:57pm

https://scontent-2.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/h ... 3374_o.jpg

im pretty sure it comes with a battery... what kind?.... i have no idea

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