ITC3 - Balance-controlled skateboard project

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ITC3 - Balance-controlled skateboard project

Post by oliverhopcroft » May 12 2018 10:10pm

I posted this on my blog at but nobody reads that so I'm copying it here.

Two weeks ago at a journalism convention in San Francisco, a friend and I rented and nearly crashed some exhilarating electric scooters. These have since been banned. About a week ago I stumbled upon a build log for a skateboard powered by an electric motor. After binging DIY electric vehicle videos on youtube for a few hours, I was hooked. Over the last few days, I've began a project to engineer and build my own.

My idea is to build upon already existing design by changing the control system from the current standard of handheld RC controllers to a balance-driven system in which the user leans forward or backwards to set the throttle. This has several advantages-- it's simpler, more intuitive, and eliminates the need for a separate battery-powered device. In addition to this, I have laid out some other design goals. The board should be small and light enough to carry, blend in with regular longboards from a distance, and travel fast and far enough to be a useful means of transportation.

To accomplish this I will use a combination of commercially available RC-car parts and modified or custom designed ones. Power will be supplied by some high energy density rechargeable batteries (Li-ion, LiPo, or LiPoFe4) to a control system made of an RC speed controller and an additional microcontroller. This system will get input from sensors to detect the rider's balance and possibly a gyroscope or accelerometer. Turning will be accomplished through the trucks by leaning, as is standard on a skateboard.

I have never ridden a skateboard or longboard before, so riding this will certainly be a learning experience. I also have no idea if the balance control will mess with the rider's ability to balance on the skateboard, but I hope that with the right settings I can get this to work out.

For this project, I chose a 32" kicktail cruiser deck, 180mm trucks, and 90mm wheels. This deck is the smallest I could go while still fitting all the electronics and I opted for fairly large wheels to improve the ride. To sense the rider's balance, I'm using load cells. These are metal devices with strain gauges attached. When load is applied, a piece of metal flexes, and the gauge mounted on it changes resistance.

The change is too small to detect directly, so I've added two HXT711 analog to digital converter boards to amplify the signal. These send a signal to an ATMEGA328p microcontroller (knockoff arduino UNO). There are several existing libraries for the HXT711, one of which I'm using to dump output on the serial port.

To mount the sensors on the board, I briefly considered having two pads on the top to step on. This, however, violates the design plan-- the skateboard needs to be balance controlled, and that would be no different than stepping on switches.

The current plan is to mount the strain guages inside risers. These are small, 1/8" to 1" pieces of plastic that go between the board and the trucks to add some height. My trucks came with 1/4" risers and hardware for them, so I want to see if I can fit the load cell within a riser of this size.


My first iteration, pictured above, was made of stacked laser-cut birch wood sheets, and amusingly, a piece of nail file. There was pocket for the load cell, space for the load-bearing part to deflect down, a hole for the wires, and a lid on top. This test was a great success-- all assembled, the board was able to detect the two load values and output a graph.


Iteration two includes six stacked rubber sheets in the same design with some minor refinement. Instead of a lid, the top can now flex, and I hope the rubber will absorb some shock from the ride.

I took a video of a test of this system. It's a bit hard to see but the two lines on the screen are values from the two load cells.

I've also started work, as seen below, on turning the raw data into usable control for the throttle. Right now, I'm using the formula

(F-front - F-back) / (F-front + F-back)

In addition, if F-front + F-back is below a certain value, the balance score is set to zero. This provides a score between -1 and 1 of the rider's balance on the board (1 is all weight on the front, -1 all weight on the back). I have no idea if an approach this simplistic will be enough to actually control the board. Since acceleration affects the rider's balance, I have a feeling the solution might end up being a model with differential equations.

For now, though, I'm satisfied with the performance of the sensors and I'm moving on to the drive system.

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Re: ITC3 - Balance-controlled skateboard project

Post by amberwolf » May 12 2018 10:36pm

FWIW, you might look up Justin_LE here on ES and on blog page, and look at his self-balancing board and unicycle builds. Might give you some info if you need it. :)

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Re: ITC3 - Balance-controlled skateboard project

Post by Flexscoot » May 29 2018 4:18am

Very interesting project !
Hand held power control is (for me) the last obstacle to remove before Eskate development.

I am looking forward for the ergonomic results (how it feels under the feet vs balance)...

Good luck!

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