Allex wrote:First is the annoying throttle delay. I have the default passthru setting on the CA. When throttle goes through CA nothing happens for about 0,5-1sec(feels like it anyway) when I twist it. When I connect throttle to phaserunner everything is fine I have a direkt response.
I read about that you can change:
But I dont even find those settings in my CA
Have you set up the CA according to the Unofficial Guide
? This will get your throttle dead zones squared away and help you set the ramping. I'm unsure why you cannot find the ThrO parameters - they should be prominently displayed in the 'Throt OUT' setup category of both the CA console setup and the Setup Utility. The ebikes.ca CA V3 page
explains the parameter locations, etc. That page should fill in all the basics and get you the firmware and programming tools, etc. The following image shows these parameters (from 3.1b8 release, but same place in 3.01). Post back if this does not help in locating the ramping parameters.
You can inspect any delays introduced by the CA by examining the IN and OUT voltages on the Diagnostics screen. With a high UpRate
, OUT should track IN instantaneously in PassThru mode. Those particular display fields ignore the Display Averaging parameter and works off the immediate raw voltages so there is no need to jiggle Pref->Averaging
to eliminate artifacts of CA display smoothing.
As you can see in the image, the default UpRate
is 2V/sec so if you are using the defaults and your throttle has the usual 3V range, you can get a maximum of (3V) / (2V/sec) = 1.5sec throttle delay if you slam it WOT on getaway.
Second is when I activate PAS and torque sensor, the throttle ramp is changed when using throttle - accelerations is very sluggish compared to when I disable pas/torq sensor) Can I have a crisp acceleration with throttle while PAS/torq is enabled?
It's a little difficult diagnose what is going on since the basic PassThru throttle tuning (ramping at least) is not fully configured and is operating improperly. You really need to get the basics squared away before you move on to these more advanced features - bad foundation and all that...
In any case, this should not be happening - torque PAS processing has nothing to do with throttle processing and throttle application always suppresses PAS processing. The only way I can see this happening is if you are switching presets to activate PAS which would bring a different UpRate
and power limiting settings into play (see image above) -- but you didn't indicate you were using presets and haven't changed the UpRates
, so this behavior is confusing...
I recommend that you flash 3.1b8 and start again with the Guide install procedure to get your throttle set up, then move on again to the TDCM. The re-flash will get you a few useful things:
- default settings which will eliminate a lot of interaction quesitions when following the Guide
- rate flag indicators on the Diagnostic Screen so you can see when those settings are affecting your throttle
- new PASRate parameter to allow separation of throttle (UpRate) and PAS (PASRate) ramping so you can tune each operating mode separately
(see this new parameter in the above image)
If you have no cable to re-flash or reload default parameters, then proceed with the install procedure, etc using the factory-installed 3.01 firmware (verify on splash screen).
If issues remain unresolved, post up your settings file and firmware version so we can look at the particulars of your configuration. Settings can interact, so it's not always easy to diagnose an issue with just a high level description of what has been set up...