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yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 05, 2012 3:21 pm

here we go, some pictures..
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got a second hand KMX cobra [as new] and installed battery case, i got it below 10EUR and it perfectly accomodates 2x 6 22v5ah turnigy packs, being compact lightweight and quite strong. However i will have to waterproof it.

i also changed crankset to a high quality 2speed one with 140mm long crank arms. this will be better for my knees and give more clearance between battery case and legs



Next to do is to connect the packs to create 88v 15ah..
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build

Post by cbr shadow » Apr 13, 2012 11:35 am

Looking forward to hearing about it!

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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 13, 2012 2:42 pm

thanks!

has anyone already tried 54xx with lyen controller please?

according to Edward as below, but if someone has already made it working, i would highly appreciate the confirmation [never know if Kenny used the same colouring for this batch ;)

Lyen Controller to Crystalyte motor wire color lining:

Controller: Motor:
HALL:
Yellow Yellow
Green Blue
Blue Green

PHASE:
Yellow Blue
Green Green
Blue Yellow
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by Drunkskunk » Apr 15, 2012 11:38 am

[quote="wojtek"]

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Have any of those that will fit a 100mm bottom bracket?
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 17, 2012 2:35 pm

100mm is a long one..

no it wont fit im afraid. but fits perfectly KMX trikes ;) and i guess any other pretty standard frames
Drunkskunk wrote:
wojtek wrote:
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Have any of those that will fit a 100mm bottom bracket?
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 17, 2012 2:39 pm

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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by Ypedal » Apr 18, 2012 12:33 pm

should post pictures here.. google+ sucks balls.... and ends up with broken links when the forum goes thru changes.. :wink:


.. i may be interested in them cranks !!!
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by Deutch420 » Apr 18, 2012 1:38 pm

wojtek wrote:thanks!

has anyone already tried 54xx with lyen controller please?

Lyen Controller to Crystalyte motor wire color lining:

Controller: Motor:
HALL:
Yellow Yellow
Green Blue
Blue Green

PHASE:
Yellow Blue
Green Green
Blue Yellow

That is the color combo that worked on my 5403
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by Brentis » Apr 18, 2012 1:50 pm

Ypedal wrote:should post pictures here.. google+ sucks balls.... and ends up with broken links when the forum goes thru changes.. :wink:


.. i may be interested in them cranks !!!
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What, I gotta sign up/in to see. :cry:

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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 18, 2012 4:22 pm

Ypedal wrote:should post pictures here.. google+ sucks balls.... and ends up with broken links when the forum goes thru changes.. :wink:


.. i may be interested in them cranks !!!
i thought posting pictures were not advisable as many times they were dead after some time :)

yes the cranks look good + 140mm arm lenght gives you more clearace for placing bigger battery box in front...
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 21, 2012 5:40 am

today i changed the front tyres.. put Maxxis Snyper 2.25
i will be also changing the rear tyre to MTB

and also worked on mudguards ...

This is my off road setup with bigger clearance.. the cornering is not great but i will see how it goes. I only did few rounds with it today as the weather sucked.
But i have a feeling that Steintrike Mungo sport cornered better, not only because of 18/20 inch wheels but maybe because of front suspension and i found it easier to put my weight on sides..

maybe pushing the seat forward be good idea but i already have the boom max forward and if i push the seat forward the distance to the pedals will be too short...

Im planning to get also a set of 16/20 inch tyres for road riding.. one day!
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 21, 2012 1:49 pm

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today installed the safety flag with led lights from ebikes.ca
+ additional rear light attached to TA..
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 28, 2012 9:59 am

first longer test with my KMX!!!!

mostly flats

with the replacement Crystalyte 24-72v 35a controller, at 44v nominal.

5405 behaves like sleeping beauty, very delicate, slow, gentle, quiet, totally cold after 40min of WOT but getting around 350-400W on WOT on flats in 26inch rim.. No issues whatsoever!

the axle thread luckily was only in the beginning of the end of axle [around 1 cm] and i think it was a human mistake rather than the manufacturing [someone just damaged the thread by forcing the bolt incorrectly]

hope to avoid other issues some of you have.

the cornering is unforgiving and unpredictable... comparing to FS Steini Mungo but i still need TIME to learn it. obviously 20/26inch will never corner but for reasonable riding it is perfect.

time for 16/20 inch setup ;)

this beast is great! if it keeps performing as it is, it will be my favourite ;)

Now time to do some offroad from from i can see, calling KMX trikes mountin tricycles is a joke! :twisted:
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » Apr 29, 2012 10:26 am

test run

5405 in 26'' rim and 2.5 hookwarm tires
turnigy 30c 50v30ah
crystalyte 24-72v 35a
max speed 33 kmh at around 300-370W / +100W against the wind

i think it is pretty efficient

motor at start: 22C / after finish [1h ride on flats] 28C
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » May 05, 2012 3:53 pm

another test run:

75,4v [66v nominal 66v30ah cells]

48-48.5kmh max at 1100-1200W on flat [depending on wind]

same xlyte 24-72v 35a controller
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Custom built Specialized BigHit with BBS02 - SOLD
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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by wojtek » May 10, 2012 1:07 pm

update:
1. change the placing of CA
2. shimano saint disc brakes [incredible stopping power!]
3. chain derailleur [clean]
4. pre-charge resistor with 125A switch
5. side battery box waterproofing [with bike rubber innertube..]

still to go:
1. new powerful controller
2. welding another side box handles
3. installing regen braking button [when 1 is done]
4. reverse gear switch [when 1 is done]
5. wheel block switch [when 1 is done]
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Go-One Evo with Cromotor
BATMOBILE - Astro 3220 / Nuvinci in progress
Giant CRS Alliance - yes, just pushbike! frock you..
3Element Espire - SOLD
Custom built Specialized BigHit with BBS02 - SOLD
Velokraft e-VK3 SOLD
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Scorpion FS HS3540-SOLD
Kona Dawg BMC v2-SOLD

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Re: yet another KMX Cobra build with xlyte 5405

Post by cbr shadow » Jun 15, 2012 3:40 pm

Looking good! Any updates?

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