Here Comes the Sondors Fold

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Sep 03 2017 11:18am

If you like to ride fast, one thing you'll want to do with this bike is change the freewheel to a DNP Epoch 11-32T for taller gearing.

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by liveforphysics » Sep 03 2017 6:23pm

Theodore Voltaire wrote:If you like to ride fast, one thing you'll want to do with this bike is change the freewheel to a DNP Epoch 11-32T for taller gearing.

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How fast on flat ground with your setup no pedaling?
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Ozzzz » Sep 03 2017 11:17pm

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Yes, the controller is to the rear of the hinge, and the battery is to the front of it. It looks like it will be really easy to hack the battery compartment, and install a different battery. The stock Panasonic 48v 14 ah battery pack is good quality, and I'm getting 40 miles practical range.

One thing this bike has got that no other bike has, is a 6500 member owners group that will have this battery hacked to pieces toot sweet, and aftermarket replacement battery's will be available from multiple sources guaranteed.
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Sep 04 2017 12:12am

liveforphysics wrote:
Theodore Voltaire wrote:If you like to ride fast, one thing you'll want to do with this bike is change the freewheel to a DNP Epoch 11-32T for taller gearing.



How fast on flat ground with your setup no pedaling?
23.4 mph with hot battery

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by liveforphysics » Sep 04 2017 12:17am

Not so bad.
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Sep 04 2017 12:48am

liveforphysics wrote:Not so bad.
There's probably 500, mad eRocket scientists in the owners group working feverishly the unleash the beast as we speak lol.

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Post by liveforphysics » Sep 04 2017 2:07am

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
liveforphysics wrote:Not so bad.
There's probably 500, mad eRocket scientists in the owners group working feverishly the unleash the beast as we speak lol.

I wish them all well!
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Sep 12 2017 5:28pm

Moving along, I finished installing fenders, and made a headlight mount.

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Rob88 » Sep 14 2017 8:22pm

Sondors says the frame is forged. Is that the same as hydro-formed? In the interviews online he says the frame was a lot of work.

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Post by Rob88 » Sep 14 2017 8:26pm

Theodore, what is the space between the dropouts on your 7-speed? I have the Fold X fixie and it measures about 155 mm.

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Sep 15 2017 9:02am

Rob88 wrote:Theodore, what is the space between the dropouts on your 7-speed? I have the Fold X fixie and it measures about 155 mm.
175mm for the multi speeds

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Sep 15 2017 9:04am

Rob88 wrote:Sondors says the frame is forged. Is that the same as hydro-formed? In the interviews online he says the frame was a lot of work.
In this case it's the same thing.

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 22 2017 10:34am

Buffy wanted a Rack

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I added lights

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Post by LockH » Oct 22 2017 1:39pm

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
rumme wrote:Gotta admit, it looks cool/ sleek, just like the original sondors fatbike in yellow. Problem is taller riders wont be comfortable on it. With those small wheel, Id imagine a 48 volt - 40 amp power system, would really have a lot of torque for hills.

Frame looks very solid.
I'm hoping what we're looking at here is the future. I'd like all the future Sondors to utilize this type of frame technology. The next bike should have a 2" longer wheelbase, and 24" fatty wheels.

Power isn't really an issue with me, because legally it's never going to have the power I want, so I'm ok with keeping the power low to hold costs down. That allows me to soup it up as much as I please, and can afford.
Speaking of the "future"... I'll suggest that Sondors consider a three-wheeler (... and recumbent) guessing that folks don't live "forever". :wink:
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by rumme » Oct 29 2017 5:54pm

Whether you love or hate Sondors ebikes, he has been successful . IMHO, he should consider his next ebike venture to be a step up in quality and price.

1000 watt hub motor - 48 volt/ 20 AH battery - 30 amp controller with front / rear suspension - tubeless tires - disc brakes
and offer it in small/medium/large frame sizes and make it look clean and refined with 7 gears . Sell it for $1400 shipped { with optional upgrades like lights, rack, etc} and I think he will have another BIG seller.

I believe 1000 watt hub motor is the best all around power option that is still inexpensive and will suit most riders needs , especially if the rider is willing to do occasional pedal assist when going up inclined roads or dirt trails.

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Post by rumme » Nov 08 2017 4:35pm

rumme wrote:Whether you love or hate Sondors ebikes, he has been successful . IMHO, he should consider his next ebike venture to be a step up in quality and price.

1000 watt hub motor - 48 volt/ 20 AH battery - 30 amp controller with front / rear suspension - tubeless tires - disc brakes
and offer it in small/medium/large frame sizes and make it look clean and refined with 7 gears . Sell it for $1400 shipped { with optional upgrades like lights, rack, etc} and I think he will have another BIG seller.

I believe 1000 watt hub motor is the best all around power option that is still inexpensive and will suit most riders needs , especially if the rider is willing to do occasional pedal assist when going up inclined roads or dirt trails.

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On another note, I wonder if Sondors would consider a mass produced MID DRIVE ebike...with mid grade components, full suspension , and a 750 watt mid drive motor , 48 volt / 20 AH battery , shipped for around $1500 - $1900 and available in 3 frame sizes. This may be another piece of the ebike market waiting to be capatlized on by Sondors

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Finished matching the rim color

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 04 2018 11:29am

This is all Storm Sondors fault

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Chalo » Mar 04 2018 6:27pm

What made you switch to a 24" wheel in front?
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 05 2018 11:24am

Chalo wrote:
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What made you switch to a 24" wheel in front?
Mostly just looks, and a desire to be different.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 07 2018 10:26pm

Oops I did it again

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 11 2018 8:34pm

This turned out to be an outstanding build, and really fun bike to ride.

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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Chalo » Mar 12 2018 12:12am

It seems to me what that bike needs is "kangaroo cranks", meaning the crankarms mounted at the same orientation rather than 180 degrees apart. Then they're still technically usable (therefore legal) but much more analogous to footpegs.

Because who would want to pedal that bike?
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Re: Here Comes the Sondors Fold

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Mar 12 2018 9:11am

Chalo wrote:
Mar 12 2018 12:12am
It seems to me what that bike needs is "kangaroo cranks", meaning the crankarms mounted at the same orientation rather than 180 degrees apart. Then they're still technically usable (therefore legal) but much more analogous to footpegs.

Because who would want to pedal that bike?
I pedal about 90% of the time. It wasn't much of a pedler stock. Even with 7 speeds you could only pedal to about 13 mph with the stock Shimano freewheel. Now with a DNP wide ratio 11-32 freewheel I can pedal to over 25 mph which is as fast as it will go.

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