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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by amberwolf » Jul 24 2019 7:53pm

I've found over the years that whenever noobs come here with excitement about an impossible idea (whether they came up with it on their own, or found it on some other site posted up by someone else that doesnt' understand what's actually happening in their stuff, or how to measure things, etc), and then are shown how things really work, or asked to measure stuff, show how things are really hooked up, or explain precisely what they want / are doing / etc., they then just stop responding, usually never to return.

It's a shame, because sometimes they might actually be able to do something similar to what they wanted, just not in the way they think they could, if only they'd show exactly what they're after so we could help them figure it out.

There are, though, some that think they can get free energy out of a system, and those are doomed to disappointment, as they're usually trying to recreate something found elsewhere, created by someone that doesn't understand what they've done or how to measure input vs output and thus make claims that they're creating energy, when in fact they're still just using it up, and don't realize it (or maybe do know but like to scam people for some reason).

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by sinisterminique » Jul 26 2019 7:57am

hey markz,
your right,its all about the voltage but most importantly,its about the frequency,the HZ in your signal is motion,the more HZ the more watts you will have.
Gerard is working on cranking up the HZ by means of a mechanical device(he uses small hub motors as frequency generators but the best he got on video is 2.6 Khz,wich is insufficient still.
The power companies send a signal on the transmissionn lines that is over 150 Khz before it goes into the tranformer on the post.

I am curently working on a mechanical frequency generator myself and i was able to get a frequency of 1.03 Mhz with the pump hooked up to a dremel spinning at 30 000 rpm.
Imagine the power of 1 Mhz at 12volt or at 110 volts?

Now before any of you tell me that its impossible,try it and see for yourself,dont just repeat what is in the books cuz you will never find any secrets in books,the companies make sure their secrets are not thought in school,therefore you are tought only what they decided to teach you,the rest you gotta figure on your own.

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by Punx0r » Jul 26 2019 8:59am

sinisterminique wrote:
Jul 26 2019 7:57am

The power companies send a signal on the transmissionn lines that is over 150 Khz before it goes into the tranformer on the post.
AC power transmission is 50 or 60 Hz. Higher frequencies are too lossy for transmitting over distance. I don't know where you've got 150,000 Hz from...

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by dustNbone » Jul 26 2019 11:05am

Yep, a transformer cannot alter the frequency, that requires some kind of oscillator, which a transformer is not.

Also, AC frequency has no relation to the amount of energy being transferred, that is a product of amperage and voltage, and applies the same to DC as it does to 60hz AC, or 400hz aircraft AC, or the variable frequency 3 phase AC used by our BLDC motors.

Volts times amps is watts, there are no other variables.

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by flat tire » Jul 26 2019 1:26pm

"These people" shouldn't be banned, but their threads SHOULD be locked and moved to a special "ridiculous crap" subforum created specifically for the purpose.

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by eee291 » Jul 26 2019 2:57pm

That would be giving them too much attention, just don't reply and they'll go away.

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by amberwolf » Jul 26 2019 11:45pm

sinisterminique wrote:
Jul 26 2019 7:57am
your right,its all about the voltage but most importantly,its about the frequency,the HZ in your signal is motion,the more HZ the more watts you will have.
No, the power is the same regardless of frequency of an electrical signal.
The power companies send a signal on the transmissionn lines that is over 150 Khz before it goes into the tranformer on the post.
No, it is not. It is 60hz in the USA, and 50 or 60hz in other countries.

The *voltage* is in the hundreds of kilovolts, but the frequency is not.


Imagine the power of 1 Mhz at 12volt or at 110 volts?
The power is exactly the same as if it was 1hz. It is Volts times Amps.

There are other properties that do change with frequency, but power is not one of them.

You can verify this with any basic measurement tools, as long as you have documentation on those tools that shows you their frequency response curves. (if you do not have that, then you have no idea how much loss they have at a particular frequency, becuase nothing has a completely flat response. Thus you don't know how much your measurements are affected by your signals).

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by amberwolf » Jul 26 2019 11:46pm

flat tire wrote:
Jul 26 2019 1:26pm
"These people" shouldn't be banned, but their threads SHOULD be locked and moved to a special "ridiculous crap" subforum created specifically for the purpose.
They used to often be placed in the Alternative Energy forum, but with solar and wind and such being more common, those threads go there, so a new forum for "impossible" stuff might be a good idea. ;)

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Re: washing machine 12 inch bldc outrunner

Post by flat tire » Jul 27 2019 1:50am

amberwolf wrote:
Jul 26 2019 11:46pm
a new forum for "impossible" stuff might be a good idea. ;)
I love it. There should be a cash reward for the first person to do the impossible.

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