Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

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Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 01 2019 10:20pm

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as the title suggests this will be a somewhat "low" power build but i'll still try to maximize the thermal capacity of the hub motor which would be the QS 205 35H 5T winding https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32816512376.html

inspired by skeetab's build w/ the funny frame color :lol:

also ordered the Kelly KLS7230S https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32888145048.html
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bottom plate is scratched up. is this normal?
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adapter cable has bare wires coming out :roll:
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shall be using parts i have lying around:

-Marzocchi drop-off triple 170mm travel
-Rockshox sektor gold 150mm travel
-Marzocchi roco 220mm 300lbs spring
-DNM rcp-2 220mm 550lbs spring

will try 2 wheel size combos:

1) 26" front, 26" rear
2) 24" front, 17" moto rear

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by skeetab5780 » Jul 03 2019 5:51am

Sub'd Need more battery space for that monster controller! Have fun on your build I like this frame and parts list

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 03 2019 10:18am

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i'm taking a gamble w/ these cheap (PHP95 or USD1.86 per piece, landed) chinese cells made by JSZH (jiangsu zhihang new energy). i've cycled a cell and got 97.8% after 152 cycles :shock: that's pretty good cycle life!

3A discharge curve compared to samsung 26F

here's the raw data from the cycle test. in retrospect i set the LVC too low at 2.5V :lol: if you look at the discharge curve it begins to fall off the cliff at around 3.2v. but this didn't seem to hurt the cell at all :lol:

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JSZH 18650 2600mah TEST!
charging time: 2:06 == 126 mins
rest: 0:05
discharging time: 0:54
rest: 0:05
TOTAL: 190 mins == 3.16~hrs per cycle

1.5a charge, 3.0a discharge, 2.5v cutoff

1 cycle: 2711mah
10: 2704
14: 2681
18: 2726
22: 2710
27: 2690
33: 2685
36: 2690
39: 2688
42: 2702
45: 2696
48: 2701
51: 2693
54: 2678
57: 2665
60: 2700
63: 2666
66: 2677        
69: 2690
72: 26xx
75: 2659
78: 2661
81: 2658
84: 2644
87: 2671
90: 2666
93: 2665
96: 2655
99: 2668
100: 2665
101: 2663
104: 2660
107: 2661
110: 2656
113: 2651
116: 2660
119: 2657
122: 2649
125: 2619
128: 2636
131: 2609
134: 2643
137: 2650
140: 2645
143: 2646
146: 2643
149: 2646
152: 2651


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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 07 2019 1:41am

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working fine. i'm a kelly noob btw. the pink #7 wire sparks when i connect to B+. apparently that's normal based on the other threads i've read. kelly's wiring diagram also doesn't specify a precharge resistor for the pink wire

speaking of precharge the 1kohm that's included charges way too slowly. i guess xt90-s is OK to use? 17s pack btw, 71.4v max

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 15 2019 2:03am

i'm posting this high-res drawing w/ the numbers to punch into your spoke calculator:

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frame should be arriving soon. can't wait :lol:

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 17 2019 2:50am

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frame is here! seems like this is the latest revision :thumb: headtube accepts tapered fork (the included headset accepts both tapered and straight steerers). dropouts are clamping.

thanks Artur for this great frame!

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 19 2019 12:12am

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strange knurling inside the head tube...

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also strange that Vector decided to use a full 1.5" headtube. forks that use straight 1.5" steerers are quite rare. the "integral" type headtube is simple to machine, lighter, and accepts tapered forks using an appropriate bottom cup

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 21 2019 4:31am

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geometry seems OK w/ this configuration. 26x2.35" front, 17x2.5" rear. i want as small rear wheel as possible since this is a DD hub. if it looks awkward i will go w/ 24" front wheel and the longer dual-crown Marzocchi to maintain more or less the same geometry (the 24" will drop the axle around 1" but the Marz should compensate by having a longer axle-to-crown)

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Jul 23 2019 5:46am

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i went ahead ang ordered 110mm (off the shelf size)

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by j bjork » Jul 29 2019 3:33pm

Nice work so far, it will be interesting to see how it continues :)

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Aug 02 2019 1:31am

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31.8mm is the correct seatpost size. fyi...

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Aug 10 2019 3:47am

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the Grin (www.ebikes.ca) spoke calculation was spot on :thumb:

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by j bjork » Aug 10 2019 9:59am

Nice, but you seem to get some bend in the spokes? I plan to have one out, one in of the crossing spokes on my wheel build. But we will see how it goes.. Where did you buy the spokes?

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Aug 12 2019 2:40am

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the spokes are from greentime. slight bend is OK. i'll retension after they bed in

here it is w/ 26" front and 17" rear. IMHO it doesn't look too awkward especially when you consider the benefits of having a small rear wheel in a DD hub (and also the advantages of having a large front wheel)
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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by pwd » Aug 12 2019 9:01am

Nice looking build so far. The wheel diameter difference doesn't look bad at all.
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2019 Rocky Mountain Blizzard 20
Cyclone "3kw" 13T motor to 44T chain ring then 36T chain ring to 11T-46T Cassette
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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by skeetab5780 » Aug 13 2019 6:08am

Looking real good! How does it ride?

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Aug 13 2019 11:18am

skeetab5780 wrote:
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Looking real good! How does it ride?

right now? probably heavy to pedal :lol: BMS arrived today will build the pack asap. i also got some lower profile bolts to increase the internal dimension
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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Sep 03 2019 12:10am

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sorry for the lack of updates...

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by pwd » Sep 12 2019 2:54pm

That is a beautiful looking battery pack. What is the max current you plan on drawing from it?
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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Sep 14 2019 1:19am

pwd wrote:
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That is a beautiful looking battery pack. What is the max current you plan on drawing from it?
thanks. 40A max

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Sep 21 2019 9:30am

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stainless is a bitch to tap

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by skeetab5780 » Sep 23 2019 3:00pm

Ouch! I would have taken a ride to the hardware store :)

hats off to you

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Re: Non-overclocked Vector Light Build

Post by Overclocker » Sep 24 2019 10:56pm

skeetab5780 wrote:
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Ouch! I would have taken a ride to the hardware store :)

hats off to you
haha but i did! they didn't have the exact size. it's a good opportunity to use the tap & die set anyway, these dies (dice?) get rarely used.

finally got it running! the KLS7230 is too big (obviously) for this build :lol: both in terms of amps and physical size :lol: i might a KLS or KBS mini. i like that these controllers can read the KTY-something-something sensor inside the hub to protect the hub from frying. i hit over-temp twice during this short ride
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