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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by st35326 » Jul 02 2019 2:37pm

FL bomber wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:35pm
ST35326.. Patrick from Hi-C email him or call him he'll build whatever you need
Copy all, and thank you sir.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Only20gp » Jul 03 2019 9:18am

Hi

Im curious about the 250 watt mode for the stealth bomber, if i want to get some cardio workout during my comute, will i still be able to peddle with some effort on the lower setting?

Peddle assist seems like the way to go but it would be nice to have the 5k watt power on tap.

I know peddling without the motor on the bomber is would be very very difficult but im thinking that with throttle only, there will be hardly any effort needed to peddle.

What you guys think?

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 03 2019 1:58pm

Only20gp wrote:
Jul 03 2019 9:18am
Hi

Im curious about the 250 watt mode for the stealth bomber, if i want to get some cardio workout during my comute, will i still be able to peddle with some effort on the lower setting?

Peddle assist seems like the way to go but it would be nice to have the 5k watt power on tap.

I know peddling without the motor on the bomber is would be very very difficult but im thinking that with throttle only, there will be hardly any effort needed to peddle.

What you guys think?
Its doable, and you will get a great workout. When I first got my Bomber, I would ride it one mile with not power assist on the flat. I could only pedal it in 3rd gear and lower. Anyway it would take me 8-10 minutes to pedal 1 mile, great workout though.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by st35326 » Jul 07 2019 2:23am

st35326 wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:37pm
FL bomber wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:35pm
ST35326.. Patrick from Hi-C email him or call him he'll build whatever you need
Copy all, and thank you sir.
Two separate emails and 3 phone calls with no response. Can you confirm his place is in business anymore? I may just bite the bullet and purchase a new pack from Stealth. The time I've spent running down leads, would have easily paid for the difference if I was working, instead.

https://www.hicbattery.com/Custom-EEB-B ... _p_68.html
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Cowardlyduck » Jul 07 2019 7:24am

st35326 wrote:
Jul 07 2019 2:23am
Two separate emails and 3 phone calls with no response. Can you confirm his place is in business anymore? I may just bite the bullet and purchase a new pack from Stealth. The time I've spent running down leads, would have easily paid for the difference if I was working, instead.

https://www.hicbattery.com/Custom-EEB-B ... _p_68.html
After you get a quote from Stealth, hit me up and I'll see what I can do for around the same price. :)

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 07 2019 9:05am

st35326 wrote:
Jul 07 2019 2:23am
st35326 wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:37pm
FL bomber wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:35pm
ST35326.. Patrick from Hi-C email him or call him he'll build whatever you need
Copy all, and thank you sir.
Two separate emails and 3 phone calls with no response. Can you confirm his place is in business anymore? I may just bite the bullet and purchase a new pack from Stealth. The time I've spent running down leads, would have easily paid for the difference if I was working, instead.

https://www.hicbattery.com/Custom-EEB-B ... _p_68.html
May have taken the week off for 4th of July celebration.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by tomjasz » Jul 07 2019 5:48pm

Rix wrote:
Jul 07 2019 9:05am


May have taken the week off for 4th of July celebration.
I'm amazed by the number of customers that think we're all waiting with bated breath over a holiday weekend just waiting for the next call. FFS. Everyone needs a break!

I got calls today. It's on Sunday. Do you get a day off?

RANT OVER...
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by st35326 » Jul 08 2019 5:15am

tomjasz wrote:
Jul 07 2019 5:48pm
Rix wrote:
Jul 07 2019 9:05am


May have taken the week off for 4th of July celebration.
I'm amazed by the number of customers that think we're all waiting with bated breath over a holiday weekend just waiting for the next call. FFS. Everyone needs a break!

I got calls today. It's on Sunday. Do you get a day off?

RANT OVER...
I don't recall ever asking the opinion of a guy who takes baths with his mouth open. But I agree, bucket drummers and sign spinners like you, should get Sundays off. Last I checked July 2nd is a Tuesday and not a Holiday. Take the week off or take the month off. But an out of office automated email reply, or properly setup voicemail is business 101.

P.S. It's Sunday and I've worked 12 hours today.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 08 2019 9:26pm

tomjasz wrote:
Jul 07 2019 5:48pm
Rix wrote:
Jul 07 2019 9:05am


May have taken the week off for 4th of July celebration.
I'm amazed by the number of customers that think we're all waiting with bated breath over a holiday weekend just waiting for the next call. FFS. Everyone needs a break!

I got calls today. It's on Sunday. Do you get a day off?

RANT OVER...
I do get days off, as should everyone. Which is why I commented that Hi C Battery may be shut down for week, due to taking days off for our Independence Day holiday. I don't have a problem with that, maybe you do?

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 08 2019 9:41pm

st35326 wrote:
Jul 08 2019 5:15am
tomjasz wrote:
Jul 07 2019 5:48pm
Rix wrote:
Jul 07 2019 9:05am


May have taken the week off for 4th of July celebration.
I'm amazed by the number of customers that think we're all waiting with bated breath over a holiday weekend just waiting for the next call. FFS. Everyone needs a break!

I got calls today. It's on Sunday. Do you get a day off?

RANT OVER...
I don't recall ever asking the opinion of a guy who takes baths with his mouth open. But I agree, bucket drummers and sign spinners like you, should get Sundays off. Last I checked July 2nd is a Tuesday and not a Holiday. Take the week off or take the month off. But an out of office automated email reply, or properly setup voicemail is business 101.

P.S. It's Sunday and I've worked 12 hours today.
Awesome response amigo! As far as I know, and I am not sure if this is the case, but I speculate Hi C Batteries may have taken a vacation because of where the 4th fell in the week. One thing I do know, the kind of folks that run businesses like this are not corporate types, they are EV enthusiasts like us and may not have automated replies or secretary staff to answer phones. Back when I was importing motors from Crystalyte, I answered emails and phone calls when I could, sometimes people waited a week or longer for me to get back to them. I was a one man operation. All I know is, Florida Bomber has an excellent reputation and is a member here on ES in good standing. If he says Patrick from Hi C battery built him a good pack, thats legit enough for me. Hopefully if you go this route instead of importing a battery from CD in Australia, you have the same experience as Florida Bomber did.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by FL bomber » Jul 12 2019 10:52am

Thanks Rix .. you've been helping others and myself for years figuring out problems what their bikes. Can't go wrong purchasing from CD. He has an eye for detail .Just check out his battery build videos. Granted his fighter videos with kiwi we're more entertaining :bigthumb: . Been running CD designed torque blocks for months. I use my regen braking all the time now.

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Jul 13 2019 4:55am

Thanks for the kind words. :)

Been a while since I did a decent ride video with another E-bike. I'm always keen if anyone what's too...I just find myself spending more time building than riding these days.

I'm about to start building up an LMX 64 which, when complete, I think I might like even more than my Fighter. :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Depending on how much I like it...and how keen I am to get going with some other $$$ projects, I might even sell my Fighter after all these years. :shock: :shock: :shock:
I would be sad to see it go, but I've been putting off some other projects with real potential for far too long.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by st35326 » Jul 16 2019 6:56pm

Rix wrote:
Jul 08 2019 9:41pm
st35326 wrote:
Jul 08 2019 5:15am
tomjasz wrote:
Jul 07 2019 5:48pm
Rix wrote:
Jul 07 2019 9:05am


May have taken the week off for 4th of July celebration.
I'm amazed by the number of customers that think we're all waiting with bated breath over a holiday weekend just waiting for the next call. FFS. Everyone needs a break!

I got calls today. It's on Sunday. Do you get a day off?

RANT OVER...
I don't recall ever asking the opinion of a guy who takes baths with his mouth open. But I agree, bucket drummers and sign spinners like you, should get Sundays off. Last I checked July 2nd is a Tuesday and not a Holiday. Take the week off or take the month off. But an out of office automated email reply, or properly setup voicemail is business 101.

P.S. It's Sunday and I've worked 12 hours today.
Awesome response amigo! As far as I know, and I am not sure if this is the case, but I speculate Hi C Batteries may have taken a vacation because of where the 4th fell in the week. One thing I do know, the kind of folks that run businesses like this are not corporate types, they are EV enthusiasts like us and may not have automated replies or secretary staff to answer phones. Back when I was importing motors from Crystalyte, I answered emails and phone calls when I could, sometimes people waited a week or longer for me to get back to them. I was a one man operation. All I know is, Florida Bomber has an excellent reputation and is a member here on ES in good standing. If he says Patrick from Hi C battery built him a good pack, thats legit enough for me. Hopefully if you go this route instead of importing a battery from CD in Australia, you have the same experience as Florida Bomber did.
Yes sir, thank you for the reply. I called Hi-C again today (July 16th) with not response. So perhaps he is taking a European vacation of some sorts.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 23 2019 1:37pm

Newest project completed. Desert sand P7R, my latest favorite.
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Post by \ (•◡•) / » Jul 24 2019 4:55am

Rix wrote:
Jul 23 2019 1:37pm
Newest project completed. Desert sand P7R, my latest favorite.
Jesus, what a sick colour.
I personally won't be buying a stealth just because of the price, and I like messing around with stuff, but god damn can stealth make a clean bike, the uniform colour across it looks just insane. With the weight that thing must be an absolute weapon on trails.
Shieeet, now I want one :/

it's interesting to see that they appear to be using the new Gmac motors (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnaucA7qVGs) from the moulded connectors, can you say anything about the regen on the P7, is it as strong as on the bomber and fighter?

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Post by Rix » Jul 24 2019 11:51am

\ (•◡•) / wrote:
Jul 24 2019 4:55am
Rix wrote:
Jul 23 2019 1:37pm
Newest project completed. Desert sand P7R, my latest favorite.
Jesus, what a sick colour.
I personally won't be buying a stealth just because of the price, and I like messing around with stuff, but god damn can stealth make a clean bike, the uniform colour across it looks just insane. With the weight that thing must be an absolute weapon on trails.
Shieeet, now I want one :/

it's interesting to see that they appear to be using the new Gmac motors (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnaucA7qVGs) from the moulded connectors, can you say anything about the regen on the P7, is it as strong as on the bomber and fighter?
Stealth is not using the GMAC motor, they are using a regular Gen5 MAC motor with a custom 9T wind. So no regen, I imagine this will be a weapon on the trails, I haven't had a chance to ride it yet since getting it back together. That should change this weekend.

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Post by PRW » Jul 24 2019 11:32pm

Rix wrote:
Jul 23 2019 1:37pm
Newest project completed. Desert sand P7R, my latest favorite.
love your work, Rix!

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Post by \ (•◡•) / » Jul 25 2019 7:04am

Rix wrote:
Jul 24 2019 11:51am

Stealth is not using the GMAC motor, they are using a regular Gen5 MAC motor with a custom 9T wind. So no regen, I imagine this will be a weapon on the trails, I haven't had a chance to ride it yet since getting it back together. That should change this weekend.
ah, my bad.
Do you know if the internal controller is still crystalite, or are they using a custom foc controller like someone guessed a while back (from memory).
It would be interesting to know if the stock controller supports regen, and the motor could be swapped, I suppose regen isn't really that important with its low efficiency on the high range P-7
It's a sweet ride, I'm very jealous

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 25 2019 10:36am

\ (•◡•) / wrote:
Jul 25 2019 7:04am
Rix wrote:
Jul 24 2019 11:51am

Stealth is not using the GMAC motor, they are using a regular Gen5 MAC motor with a custom 9T wind. So no regen, I imagine this will be a weapon on the trails, I haven't had a chance to ride it yet since getting it back together. That should change this weekend.
ah, my bad.
Do you know if the internal controller is still crystalite, or are they using a custom foc controller like someone guessed a while back (from memory).
It would be interesting to know if the stock controller supports regen, and the motor could be swapped, I suppose regen isn't really that important with its low efficiency on the high range P-7
It's a sweet ride, I'm very jealous
I have a picture of the controller on my home computer from when the bike was apart. Its blue and a sinwave is all I know. I will post a pic of it tonight.

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Post by Rix » Jul 25 2019 11:38pm

Here is a pic of the Sinwave controller that comes with the P7R. I threw in a pic of the frame back from the powdercoaters for good measure.
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Post by FL bomber » Jul 29 2019 10:58am

Looking to upgrade my bomber controller to be able to utilize the amps my
20s 30q pack can put out. The BMS can
Put out 100 amp continuous 150 Max.
Still want to use the CA.
Mobius .. power velocity.. vesc ?

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Post by Kepler » Jul 30 2019 2:59am

Rix wrote:
Jul 25 2019 11:38pm
Here is a pic of the Sinwave controller that comes with the P7R. I threw in a pic of the frame back from the powdercoaters for good measure.
I like that color Rix. Good to see the frame suits a tapered steerer too.
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Post by 1abv » Jul 30 2019 6:55am

st35326 wrote:
Jul 07 2019 2:23am
st35326 wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:37pm
FL bomber wrote:
Jul 02 2019 2:35pm
ST35326.. Patrick from Hi-C email him or call him he'll build whatever you need
Copy all, and thank you sir.
Two separate emails and 3 phone calls with no response. Can you confirm his place is in business anymore? I may just bite the bullet and purchase a new pack from Stealth. The time I've spent running down leads, would have easily paid for the difference if I was working, instead.

https://www.hicbattery.com/Custom-EEB-B ... _p_68.html
So bummer..... I as well called 3 times left about 4 emails and no response. Im wondering if these guys are still in business.. Its a bit harder to find battery builders in the USA, EMP does sell a battery pack for the bomber. They have a 20 and 24 amp. And are easily reachable by phone. Ideally I wish they made a larger pack.. Or someone else in the states sells a larger amp pack.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Rix » Jul 30 2019 10:09am

Kepler wrote:
Jul 30 2019 2:59am
Rix wrote:
Jul 25 2019 11:38pm
Here is a pic of the Sinwave controller that comes with the P7R. I threw in a pic of the frame back from the powdercoaters for good measure.
I like that color Rix. Good to see the frame suits a tapered steerer too.
Thanks Kep, yah the tapered head tube is much better for single crown forks than the straight 1 1/8 head tube.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jul 31 2019 10:17pm

I ask a friend that knows Patrick Duggan personally if Hi-C is still in business, and he said yes, and he's swamped with up to 6 to 8 weeks of work load. If you're having trouble contacting him, keep trying, and my friend mentioned he also is available on Facebook.

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