E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by FL bomber » Jan 02 2020 3:38pm

Do I turn allen wrench clockwise to remove left side crank arm on v-box?
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With flor de Cana. Should have used with my A2B 😲

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 02 2020 5:51pm

FL bomber wrote:
Jan 02 2020 3:38pm
Do I turn allen wrench clockwise to remove left side crank arm on v-box?
A New year's Eve mishap 😒 don't mix bomber
With flor de Cana. Should have used with my A2B 😲
Yes, left side is reverse thread.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 02 2020 5:54pm

Thorsaw wrote:
Jan 02 2020 12:52pm
I have recently purchased a stealth clone ebike. I've been lurking endless sphere for a while but have never posted. I wanted to see if anyone has had any luck registering/titling their stealth or stealth clone or personal build as an actual motorcycle. My bike has a qs hub motor 8000 watt continuous 12000 peak. I was hoping to buy a lighting kit and getting some DOT approved tires. There's also a company online that says it will be able to title and register my bike as long as it passes inspection and has a serial number and bill of sale. They mentioned that they've gotten five Sur Ron light bees registered and titled no issue.

I guess the question is has anybody actually succeeded in this? Thank you
Can't be done in Texas. No VIN#, and no process to get one.

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Post by amberwolf » Jan 03 2020 1:25pm

Thorsaw wrote:
Jan 02 2020 12:52pm
I have recently purchased a stealth clone ebike. I've been lurking endless sphere for a while but have never posted. I wanted to see if anyone has had any luck registering/titling their stealth or stealth clone or personal build as an actual motorcycle. My bike has a qs hub motor 8000 watt continuous 12000 peak. I was hoping to buy a lighting kit and getting some DOT approved tires. There's also a company online that says it will be able to title and register my bike as long as it passes inspection and has a serial number and bill of sale. They mentioned that they've gotten five Sur Ron light bees registered and titled no issue.

I guess the question is has anybody actually succeeded in this? Thank you
depends on where you are and the local specific requirements for registering.

its different in different localities for different vehicles, so since you don't give your locality, no one can tell you anything about your particular process or needs.

so you must check with your local dmv and/or local site listing the specific regulations and requirements, then ensure your vehicle meets those specific requirements, then go thru whatever process those requirements list.

if your specific vehicle does not come with a vin of the right type from the manufacturer, and that manufacturer is not on the list (if there is one) of registered manufacturers in your locality and/or federally, it may not be registerable at all.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Thorsaw » Jan 03 2020 5:41pm

I've been told by dirtlegal.com (I have no affiliation) that a serial number and bill of sale is required for Maryland and NOT a vin. If I succeed I will post my results. If I Fail I will still post so others can gawk at my misfortune. Brave New world?


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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 20 2020 10:11am

Yesterday I was about to suggest that the Sur Ron looks like a good bike for a typical stealth owner, then I remembered that Rix, and Alex has one.

This is what I'm talking about.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Jan 20 2020 10:20am

I also noticed that Texas has changed their moped statutes making it easier to register a bike that doesn't have a VIN. I think I could register my Stealth in Texas as a moped now if I wanted to bad enough. As it comes limited from the factory it would qualify. There's just a form that needs to be filled out and notarized by the seller that states it has less than 5 hp, and has less than 30 mph top speed. You would need lighting, but mopeds aren't required to meet DOT requirements.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Cowardlyduck » Jan 28 2020 7:04am

Finally got my Fighter (mostly) back together and first ride was to check out a massive fire heading my way as Australia burns.

Sorry for the crappy quality photo/video...it was smokey and super windy up there!
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I'm not in much danger where I am as I'm in the middle of the southern suburbs of Canberra, but still scary none the less!

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by FL bomber » Jan 30 2020 12:32pm

Sad to see what's happening in Australia.
Hope your home stays up wind of the fire.
Stay safe C D

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by whitebomber » Feb 02 2020 3:07am

Can anyone help me out with instructions on how to connect lights directly to the battery and also a great light option for bush work. Anyone using light bars?

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Allex » Feb 03 2020 8:08am

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Jan 20 2020 10:11am
Yesterday I was about to suggest that the Sur Ron looks like a good bike for a typical stealth owner, then I remembered that Rix, and Alex has one.

This is what I'm talking about.

Well maybe this one with streamers?
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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 03 2020 8:17pm

Allex wrote:
Feb 03 2020 8:08am
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Well maybe this one with streamers?
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Why not?

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by KarlJ » Feb 04 2020 12:39am

Stock RST forks have finished leaking out their oil
Is this the correct USD-8 for the Bomber
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DNM-USD-8-M ... ctupt=true

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Feb 04 2020 6:17am

Another Stealth is soon to get a monster battery upgrade.
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Guess which variant.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 04 2020 9:46am

KarlJ wrote:
Feb 04 2020 12:39am
Stock RST forks have finished leaking out their oil
Is this the correct USD-8 for the Bomber
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DNM-USD-8-M ... ctupt=true
Yes, those will work.

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Post by Rix » Feb 04 2020 12:19pm

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Feb 04 2020 6:17am
Another Stealth is soon to get a monster battery upgrade.
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Guess which variant.

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Whats the numbers for this battery?

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Cowardlyduck » Feb 04 2020 5:53pm

Rix wrote:
Feb 04 2020 12:19pm
Whats the numbers for this battery?
It's 20S12P. 3Kwh.
Should be good for over 100km range on the particular Stealth variant it's going in. Any guesses?

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Post by Allex » Feb 05 2020 8:47am

Why not 14p? :wink:
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Post by bigbore » Feb 05 2020 10:52am

This Bomber above now need a V-Boxx service or maybe a new V-Boxx. What's your advice to buy a new V-Boxx? Some time ago I read that Mammuth from Russia may sell it but I contacted them without any reply.
Or does Stealth bike sell replacements for V-Boxx?

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Feb 05 2020 4:58pm

Allex wrote:
Feb 05 2020 8:47am
Why not 14p? :wink:
I offered, but I think 12p was enough for this guy.

Is there any pictures of the cell layout and dimensions of that pack Alex? I'm fairly sure I know how you did it, as I did similar on my Fighter, but not quite sure how you got the length.
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Post by KarlJ » Feb 05 2020 7:04pm

My next battery build will be top and bottom the same ie each of the top and bottom rows have 20S then when you fold the top over they cannot make an internal short even after any movement that may cause the insulating material to fail.
from there i'd add the other 2S ontop flat like your fighter pack for 22S 12P.

unfortunately by my calculations thats 35,000kms away!

On a great note i did 3000kms in 90 days with christmas holidays of 2 weeks with no riding in there too.
now 6500kms on the clock and showing 64 cycles on the battery, for a cycle (according to the CA) of 47kms.

Only charging to 90V and discharging to 80V, 80% of the time with average distance between charge of 32kms

I'm calling it 400 full cycles as per the datasheet for the LGMJ1 to ~80% remaining capcaity hence should do at least 600 given the lower max charge at 4.1V/cell and ~800-1000 or more before I no longer have enough capacity to goto work 1 day.

This gives us somewhere in the vicinity of 37-45,000kms pack life in my case.

Given this is 7+ years at 6000kms / year - choose your battery type and pack size VERY carefully as you'll live with it for a LONG time (and its not a cheap exercise).

My mistake - should have done 12P, should have built top and bottom layers the same ie 20-22S top and bottom so risk of short due to rubbing between the two layers eliminated.

22S with the stock controller produces 6300W under load hot off the charger with my pack, decreasing to 5000W when pack is down at 70V (unloaded) which is as low as i've needed to run it so far.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 05 2020 8:35pm

bigbore wrote:
Feb 05 2020 10:52am
This Bomber above now need a V-Boxx service or maybe a new V-Boxx. What's your advice to buy a new V-Boxx? Some time ago I read that Mammuth from Russia may sell it but I contacted them without any reply.
Or does Stealth bike sell replacements for V-Boxx?
I think your choices are,

1. take it apart yourself, and order spare parts from Stealth.
2. send Stealth your VBoxx for repair
3. order a new VBoxx from Stealth for about us$1100+

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by litespeed » Feb 05 2020 9:04pm

KarlJ wrote:
Feb 05 2020 7:04pm
My next battery build will be top and bottom the same ie each of the top and bottom rows have 20S then when you fold the top over they cannot make an internal short even after any movement that may cause the insulating material to fail.
from there i'd add the other 2S ontop flat like your fighter pack for 22S 12P.

unfortunately by my calculations thats 35,000kms away!

On a great note i did 3000kms in 90 days with christmas holidays of 2 weeks with no riding in there too.
now 6500kms on the clock and showing 64 cycles on the battery, for a cycle (according to the CA) of 47kms.

Only charging to 90V and discharging to 80V, 80% of the time with average distance between charge of 32kms

I'm calling it 400 full cycles as per the datasheet for the LGMJ1 to ~80% remaining capcaity hence should do at least 600 given the lower max charge at 4.1V/cell and ~800-1000 or more before I no longer have enough capacity to goto work 1 day.

This gives us somewhere in the vicinity of 37-45,000kms pack life in my case.

Given this is 7+ years at 6000kms / year - choose your battery type and pack size VERY carefully as you'll live with it for a LONG time (and its not a cheap exercise).

My mistake - should have done 12P, should have built top and bottom layers the same ie 20-22S top and bottom so risk of short due to rubbing between the two layers eliminated.

22S with the stock controller produces 6300W under load hot off the charger with my pack, decreasing to 5000W when pack is down at 70V (unloaded) which is as low as i've needed to run it so far.
That is the reason I built a 20s15p 30Q pack.....couldn’t go 22 with a MaxE other wise I probably would have.

Good advice.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by 1abv » Feb 06 2020 7:03pm

bigbore wrote:
Feb 05 2020 10:52am
This Bomber above now need a V-Boxx service or maybe a new V-Boxx. What's your advice to buy a new V-Boxx? Some time ago I read that Mammuth from Russia may sell it but I contacted them without any reply.
Or does Stealth bike sell replacements for V-Boxx?
I've torn mine down 3 times, its not that big of a deal as long as your detailed oriented.. you may be able to get spares from Stealth for your vboxx depending on whats wrong with it. You could always buy a new one and keep this as a spare parts box as well..
If you send it in to Stealth they send it to tawian for repair and the turnaround is at least 3-5 weeks

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