The White Warrior - 40mph+ tadpole trike FINISHED!

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The White Warrior - 40mph+ tadpole trike FINISHED!

Post by Xanda2260 » Nov 17, 2011 4:31 pm

Hey guys, thought I'd post up my trike build. It isn't finished yet but I'm getting there...honest.
It's an Atomic Zombie Warrior trike, but with a 9c drive and some epic 18s lipo action! Or it will be, eventually...

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Re: The White Warrior

Post by John in CR » Nov 21, 2011 11:38 pm

Looking good. Get the steering ready, clamp on a footrest, batteries, controller, and throttle and give her a spin.

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Re: The White Warrior

Post by Xanda2260 » Nov 22, 2011 1:32 pm

Cheers John. Working on steering at the moment, its a PITA! But as soon as it's done im ducktaping the gear to her and going cruzin'. I want an EV grin!
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Re: The White Warrior

Post by StudEbiker » Nov 22, 2011 2:32 pm

Looks great. I will be following this one! :D

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Re: The White Warrior

Post by Pure » Nov 22, 2011 2:51 pm

Looks good.

Can I ask here, and maybe someone knows...What's the reason for having the front wheels on a tadpole so close to your hips. Seems like a longer wheel base would be preferred. I'm not picking on you Xanda, it seems that all/most tadpoles are made this way, and I just don't get it.
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Re: The White Warrior

Post by www.recumbents.com » Nov 22, 2011 4:16 pm

Handling is much better this way then if the front wheel are pushed out to the front.

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Re: The White Warrior

Post by StudEbiker » Nov 22, 2011 10:05 pm

Did you build those front hubs yourself using the AZ method? If so, nice job man, those look factory.

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Re: The White Warrior

Post by Xanda2260 » Nov 25, 2011 12:10 pm

StudEbiker wrote:Did you build those front hubs yourself using the AZ method? If so, nice job man, those look factory.
Wish I could say yes. However, I cant even build wheels (yet). Those wheels were ordered from the lovely people at TerraTrike, hubs and all. Would've had them built here in the UK but every bike store I asked either said no outright, or claimed they'd get back to me and never did. So much for supporting local business...

Anywho, currently working on steering. PITA! More pics when I have it sorted!
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Re: The White Warrior

Post by Xanda2260 » Nov 26, 2011 3:00 pm

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Ok, got steering sorted at last! still needs tuning but it works! Went for first ride this evening, just down the street. No power, no lights, no pedals and NO BRAKES!! Rides nice, turns well - I'm chuffed!

Handle bars will not be this long when finished. I'll cut them down once I've stuck all the goodies on. Think I'm gonna have an issue with my thumb throttle hittling the right hand wheel. Anyone got a nice slim one they want to sell me? This beast has an LED fuel gauge built in so it's huge!!
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Re: The White Warrior

Post by Xanda2260 » Dec 10, 2011 3:50 pm

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Pic of trike as it is today. Still not got around to riding under power yet :-(
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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Pure » Dec 12, 2011 5:40 am

Still a very cool build, I would like to see some pics of the frame setup behind the seat. If you get a chance that is.
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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by pelle242 » Dec 12, 2011 6:52 am

Very nice. I have a warrior build on back burner myself.

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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Xanda2260 » Dec 12, 2011 4:03 pm

Pure wrote:Still a very cool build, I would like to see some pics of the frame setup behind the seat. If you get a chance that is.
I'll grab a pic next time I have the seat off. It's just a length of 40mm box section ( like rest of frame) with some tabs welded on and some M6 bolts holding it on.

If anyones interested the build thread is here
http://forum.atomiczombie.com/showthrea ... #post56678

You'll need to be a registered member of the AZ forum to see more than the first post though.

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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Xanda2260 » Dec 15, 2011 8:39 am

It's ALIVE!

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Feast your eyes on the duct tape disaster-waiting-to-happen!
36v 15ah of appalingly heavy lead on my lovely new rack. Wires bloody everywhere, ductape holding it all together(ish) and me with a huge grin in my face!

She's no where near ready yet (no brakes for a start) but it works!!
I like the EV grin :mrgreen:
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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Xanda2260 » Dec 16, 2011 6:32 am

Ok, as requested, pic of seat support. This is taken from the front of the trike

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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Pure » Dec 16, 2011 4:52 pm

Thanks, that's a very interesting picture. Just how strong is this steel? Or does it give you much flex?

I'm wondering what's it's weight limit?

I really am curious about the strength of the steel, not trying to sound like a ass.
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Post by Xanda2260 » Dec 16, 2011 5:08 pm

If you're looking for tensile strength etc. I'd reccommend google ;-)
The guy that writes the plans reckons this is good for people up to 300lbs (130kg!!), providing the welds are decent.
If you look at the rack I've made you'll see that the rear fork is 2 pieces. The rear section is curently only welded top and bottom (not sides) and each side is capable of supporting my weight. They are only attached to the frame at one end, so they're pretty strong!
There is a little flex, which nicely absorbs some shock from the road, however it is still like riding a hardtale!

Hope that helps.
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Post by Pure » Dec 17, 2011 1:02 pm

Thanks for the info. I've been researching tinsel strength in various steel. I can read specs till I'm blue in the face, but to see an actual working design of only one bent tube that should support the weight of a full grown man, kinda puts it all into perspective.
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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Xanda2260 » Dec 17, 2011 3:35 pm

Woohoo! Ive got brakes!! Just got back from my first 48v run. Glad the brakes work, cos it's reasonably fast!! Defo need more current though, 20amps coipled with lead acid voltage sag sucks arse! Through a straw!

Need lipo...and lyen controller...NOW
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Post by Xanda2260 » Feb 19, 2012 5:04 am

Pure wrote:Thanks for the info. I've been researching tinsel strength in various steel. I can read specs till I'm blue in the face, but to see an actual working design of only one bent tube that should support the weight of a full grown man, kinda puts it all into perspective.
Just to clarify, the rear section isn't one piece of bent steel, it's two pieces welded together (just not properly yet). Even like this and only supported under one end it will still hold my 65kg (145lb ish).
I'll get a pic for you...
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There you go. This shows how I made the rear section.

In other news, lyen 12fet on its way! Now need lipo!! Come on payday!!
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Post by Xanda2260 » Feb 19, 2012 7:07 am

Woohoo! Batteries ordered! Credit card 4 the win! Now, need a charger - to the for sale section!

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Post by Xanda2260 » Feb 23, 2012 12:38 pm

I have officially joined the lipo club :-)
6 x 6s 5ah are sat in my garage. And best of all, all are with 0.02v of 3.8v! Except one cell that's at 3.72. Not bad at all! Whoop! Just need a charger and harness now...

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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Xanda2260 » Feb 28, 2012 9:46 am

Oky guys, sitrep.
Batteries have arrived, I've nearly finished a temporary battery box, and the trike can be pedalled!
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i293/ ... EO0019.mp4

This is a bid of my bro in law pedalling it up our street (yes, the girly laughing in the background is me). The rasping noise is the connector for the halls rubbing on the tyre! Apparantly the cable shifted when he hit a bump.

Below is my temp batt box
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Will make a better one when I find some material that is strong, tough, easy to work, and thin!
Im tinking carbon fibre, but I wouldn't know where to start. Clearances are VERY tight. With is box I have around 10mm between it and the rear tyre, and maybe 3-4" clearance with the ground which annoyingly makes the batteries joint lowest point on the trike!! Eek!
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Post by Xanda2260 » Mar 07, 2012 4:46 pm

Balancing batteries right now! Made the charging and discharging harnesses, still need to make up the balance tap paralleling harnesses so i can balance charge the entire pack at once.
Soooo colse to getting this beast cruising!
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Re: The White Warrior - tadpole trike [pics]

Post by Xanda2260 » Mar 08, 2012 4:29 pm

It lives! And 38mph withe you arse 5" from the floor is scary!

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