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"Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 21, 2012 1:35 pm

Well, here we go again boys & girls.
Just got home from a trip to Hamilton, Ontario. Where I picked up my third Strong GTS eBike.
$200 cdn. $25 in gas & 3 hours of my time. :wink:

Endless Sphere meet the "Strong Commuter"
The Industries best high performance eBike..JPG
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350w of tire shredding power.
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This has to be my last bike purchase for awhile. No more new/used bikes in 2012. :D
Light & horn.JPG
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Full fenders, rear rack, & trunk..JPG
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This example has all the options.
It also has new batteries(SLA) and a blown controller.
Perfect for modification.


This build is intended as a replacement for "Ghetto". A legal'ish commuter.
I may strip Ghetto down for the components. 16s5p a123, Hx3540, 35amp controller.
Or, I may sell Ghetto complete, to fund parts for this build.
Got some decision making to do.

I see this with a MAC 500w & 16s4p a123 in OG battery case, but we'll see where my fancy takes us. :mrgreen:
Tear down pics coming soon.

Stay tuned...

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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by dogman dan » Apr 21, 2012 2:50 pm

Damn cool frames, I'd sure snap at one if I saw it for sale, but at the price I'd pay for frame only.

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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 21, 2012 3:00 pm

Cheers Dogman.
I love em'.

I keep my eye on the local ads daily. See them relatively frequently @ $200-$500+
Alas I have enough bikes for now.( unless I find another broke down example for real cheap :roll: )
I will post links for the locals to scoop up, if I find more.
I'd be curious to find an example in the states.
Seems these bikes only made it to Canada & the UK.

This is like a poor mans Stealth. If you see one for sale cheap, grab it. You wont regret it.
Perfect bike to convert, as the OG components are craptastic.

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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 23, 2012 8:21 am

Since this build is a going to be a commuter & use many of the components that my first "Strong"Build used for setup,
I thought it prudent to link those first efforts/pics My first custom Strong.
It ended up as "ScootBike", but now is reborn. :wink:

More pics...
Strippin' a Strong.JPG
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Strippin' a Strong 1.JPG
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Another motor to experiment with..JPG
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Pieces everywhere Ghetto ready for surgery..JPG
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Half way there.JPG
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One to commute, One to race..JPG
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This shock is upside down..JPG
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Spare junk. Light, horn, cable pull brakes. etc.JPG
Spare junk. Light, horn, cable pull brakes. etc.JPG (78.29 KiB) Viewed 4805 times
What are you going to do with me now, Brent.JPG
What are you going to do with me now, Brent.JPG (56.79 KiB) Viewed 4805 times
More to come.
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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by chroot » Apr 23, 2012 5:13 pm

Very nice! Perfect for your LiPo battery packs lay on the middle frame and full suspension is PLUS BONUS!!

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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 24, 2012 1:39 pm

Updates...

3quater there..JPG
16s5p a123 26650 battery fits on rack perfectly, but adding 15lbs over top a 16lbs hub seem a bad idea.
Especially with all that center frame space/box.
3quater there..JPG (76.56 KiB) Viewed 4713 times
Frontend installed and tight..JPG
90mm Sturmey Drum. Nice & tight. half pull.
This frontend is also alot bouncy'er looser than my other example.
Might swap the two. I'll ride it some and see.
Frontend installed and tight..JPG (65.45 KiB) Viewed 4713 times
Rear end..JPG
16lbs for hub+15lbs for pack+ 2lbs for controller + 6lbs swingarm.
Around 40lbs unsprung. Too high for a racer, passable as a commuter, not for me.
Rear end..JPG (77.99 KiB) Viewed 4713 times
a123 where it should be..JPG
1p too high/wide to fit the OG battery pack.
Who wants to trade a Cell_man 16s4p long pack for a 16s5p long?
Maybe some Lipo & charger you are frightened of?
a123 where it should be..JPG (75.68 KiB) Viewed 4713 times
Controller squeezed between fender and rack..JPG
Had to scrape some paint to get it to fit.
Still need to tie down, great location though.
Controller squeezed between fender and rack..JPG (66.54 KiB) Viewed 4713 times
need to wrap and space. Temporary situation..JPG
I'll MacGuyver up something to protect it for now.
need to wrap and space. Temporary situation..JPG (61.68 KiB) Viewed 4713 times
She is ready to ride.
I still need to wrap/secure the battery, but i could go for a ride right now :mrgreen:
A record build/rebuild for me.
Guess what though? Its currently 0c & snowing. WTF. 25c all March supposed to snow today & tomorrow. 10c Wed. :twisted:
Given space, the right tools & 8 hours, I believe I could convert two bikes. :wink:
That's if I was set-up right & hammer'in through er'.
Considering selling/trading my 16s5p a123 Cell_man pack for Lipo.
Really need to utilize those battery cases that my current pack doesnt fit.
Potential I could cut 1p out of the pack. Then it would fit the manu. box.
I'll create a for sale thread when I make a decision.


Hey agniusm, what do you think of these fenders? :wink:

from my "Ghetto" Build.
agniusm wrote:Get rid of those fenders bro, looks bloody awful. Get some for 20" wheels :)
Stay tuned...

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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 24, 2012 2:27 pm

I quick vid.
Notice the knocking sound. What do ya'll think?


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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 25, 2012 8:37 am

Update...

I change my mind as often as my ginch :roll:
Now without cargo rack & controller riding the seat to battery frame.
Looks alot cleaner this way.
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Sans cargo rack..JPG
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Rear 3rd.JPG
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The race bike is that much lower riding..JPG
The race bike is that much lower riding..JPG (66.66 KiB) Viewed 4657 times
More to come.
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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Apr 30, 2012 8:37 am

Updates...

The Commuter rolls.
Rolls straight into a tree.
Hit a tree, lose a knuckle..JPG
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Hit a tree, lose a knuckle. 2.JPG
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4 months along.JPG
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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » May 03, 2012 7:21 pm

Well I built up my clamping dropouts & tested it out.
All good in the hood. Lets roll.
Went for a ride to me maws,10km away, to visit with a new nephew & brother/sister in-law.
Round the last corner, phuuuuuuhsssssssssst. First flat of the season. :roll:
No one home & I'm on rim. They were out visiting family & my maw was out on a walk. WTF.
She showed 15 mins later & van'd my sad ass home.

10km ride impression, Smooth, Kool, Attn getting 40kph moped.
Going from the full rigid Ghetto bike to this F/S is sweeeeet.
I rode around the lake path & was stopped once, given 3 nice bike guy, & lots of attn.
I am handsome as a young Shatner though :wink:
Too fast too ride the bike path that shares asphalt with the walking path.
Grazers are the norm so a bit on the dangerous side, even when you slow to 15kph.
On road or trail, it is very smooth, rear shock feels perfect,
front end bobs like a common crack whore, but is soft like a Caddy.
Going to try my spare front end, as I remember it being much stiffer.

I figured out the speed issue I was having. Had the ebrake plugged into 3spd switch plug that was the same.
Ran the motor @ like 75%. All better now. Cant wait to get out there again.
First I gotta fix a flat & wait for the T-storms to pass. Supposed to be pretty shitty here for the next few days.
Sun then storm then sun then storm today & currently rumbling out there.
Second create a bit of a build log for clamping drops.
Here's a teaser.
Dark ass teaser pic. + a flat.JPG
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more to come.

Stay tuned...
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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » May 05, 2012 7:15 pm

A quick vid.



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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » May 18, 2012 10:18 am

Updates...

If you run a small wheel conversion of a standard 26" wheeled bike, watch your crankarm length. :roll:
I got too comfortable running a 20" in 26" bike with my rigid suspension Ghetto build,
only one pedal impact incident, that I saved.
With StrongCommuter & its full suspension, ground clearance varies. Be careful folks or suffer the pain.
There was no saving this incident, it happened so fast that by the time I realized what was happening I was eating/rolling dirt.

Ouchy.
Bruised from dangle to knee..JPG
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Growing some colour.JPG
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I'm going to go get back on the horse now. Ride safe y'all.

Stay tuned...
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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by boppinbob » Jul 15, 2012 5:48 pm

Be careful folks or suffer the pain.
There was no saving this incident, it happened so fast that by the time I realized what was happening I was eating/rolling dirt.
Brentis, I too, had a crash this year. https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =1&t=40514 It friggin hurt when I went over the handle bars. Sucks doesn't it. Happens so fast. One minute you're like la, la, la, what a beautiful day and the next minute it's over the handle bars and "frig me, it hurts".
Stay safe.
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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Brentis » Jul 15, 2012 7:50 pm

boppinbob wrote:
Be careful folks or suffer the pain.
There was no saving this incident, it happened so fast that by the time I realized what was happening I was eating/rolling dirt.
Brentis, I too, had a crash this year. https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =1&t=40514 It friggin hurt when I went over the handle bars. Sucks doesn't it. Happens so fast. One minute you're like la, la, la, what a beautiful day and the next minute it's over the handle bars and "frig me, it hurts".
Stay safe.
Lightweight. I'm on to crash number 3 for the season. I dont think you are ridin' hard enough. :wink:
Seriously though, crash number 3, disabled both the wheel and my body.
I got myself into a position where I had to perform an extreme evasive maneuver.(avoid some punks)
Bicycle wheels & tires aren't designed for a 200+ pounder to drag a knee around a corner @ 40kph.
Lacing gave way, all spokes loose, 1 broke. Wheel wobbling as I am forced into 1 more turn before I can stop.
Well that was it for the bike, it had had enough, so it decided to chuck me. Highside.
Left a half pound of flesh on the asphalt, road rash.
Rolled onto my back, had a S.S. water bottle in my backpack, major f*^%$ tweek. Both since healed.
But I bent my thumb back to the wrist & its still fuct.
I have a feeling that this one is a permanent reminder that I'm not 16 anymore.
Luckily it is my left hand, I can still grip a throttle & my manhood.

Been a little over a month with no E grins. I miss it intensely.
I will be back to it soon though. (as soon as the wife & mother get over the trauma) :lol:

Ride within the limit of your equipment. Stay safe all.

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Re: "Strong Commuter" Build...

Post by Hobbit » Jul 16, 2012 6:03 am

OH DUDE!

I've been wonderin' how brentis is goin' for about a month now... Now i know!...whoa, mate, that sucks sooo badly. Rest up, heal up, it's easy to say but it's the hard part actually. Sitting around waiting for physicality to come good takes frickin' ages but there's a cloud of brothers here cheerin' for ya matee. Take care.
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Post by Ctesibios » Sep 26, 2012 9:45 am

Brentis, are you still working on this project? How is the healing coming along?

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Post by Tommy L » Sep 26, 2012 9:56 am

Brentis wrote:A quick vid.



:mrgreen:

Loving the Dogman Torque Arms! :)

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Post by Ctesibios » Sep 27, 2012 9:46 am

Tommy L wrote:Loving the Dogman Torque Arms! :)

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Nice to see someone else from Ottawa!

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