Long wheel base front box cargo bike

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:42 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys.
Good idea amberwolf, I will endeavour to do a summary post.
Here are photos of the powder coated frame.

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Samd » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:52 pm

Hmm, I can't get pics above or several posts up - but would sure love to see them...
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:05 pm

I can see them, can others?
They are hosted on photobucket, is that blocked by your computer?
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Timma2500 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:22 pm

Here ya go Sam -

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Bravo Matt the frame looks bloody great mate, this is going to come together beautifully with the black wheels and stained cargo area :mrgreen:
As usual, keep the pron pics coming :wink:

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Samd » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:05 am

It's a wee ripper!
http://ballaratebikes.com/

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby amberwolf » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:10 pm

Yours is definitley going to look better than mine. I will wait for your summary and the test ride reports before proceeding to actually build anything, but my pondering thread is here:
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:43 am

amberwolf wrote:Yours is definitley going to look better than mine. I will wait for your summary and the test ride reports before proceeding to actually build anything, but my pondering thread is here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43328

Nice pondering, shit it's long!


Ok I'm feeling motivated now that the frame is home and powder coated.
I stained the box and put a coat of tung oil on it.
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The brakes are on.
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The batteries are going just behind the box.
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I'm using Lexan for the battery mounting and cover, the cover will have carbon fibre vinyl on it like my other builds.
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This is the cardboard mock-up of the cover.
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This is the marked out cover.
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This is the plastic bender I use to bend the Lexan.
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Here is the cover bent up but not quite finished.
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More to come soon.
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Thud » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:50 am

wow,
I just noticed this build today. loving it so far.
get some......

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby agniusm » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:35 pm

what about double bottom for batteries controller and charger? Sure it should be enough space and would be well protected.
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Chalo » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:49 pm

This is new to me too. Nice workmanship.

I hope that tubing is thick, because there is a weak point in your frame at the base of the steering post. The rear of the bike is a decent truss, and the front's not bad either-- but where they join together, there's almost no bracing.

My friend Jeremy has been iterating front loaders for years now, and now he always trusses the boom tube through the middle. I think that proved to be a point of failure in unbraced versions.

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:40 pm

Chalo wrote:I hope that tubing is thick, because there is a weak point in your frame at the base of the steering post. The rear of the bike is a decent truss, and the front's not bad either-- but where they join together, there's almost no bracing.

My friend Jeremy has been iterating front loaders for years now, and now he always trusses the boom tube through the middle. I think that proved to be a point of failure in unbraced versions.


Thanks for the input. The tube is standard 1.6mm wall thickness mild steel.
This frame is very strong, the deck surround tube and the lower main tube are on different planes and act as a truss, plus the tubes that run on an angle back from the deck to the top of the steer tube act as a brace. Also the bottom tube and deck tubes are triangulated at two points along their length.

agniusm wrote:what about double bottom for batteries controller and charger? Sure it should be enough space and would be well protected.

I don't understand this sentence.
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby amberwolf » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:11 am

I think he means a double deck on the cargo area--put the batteries and controller under there. I am considering that for mine.
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Cargo_Tom » Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:33 am

Looks awesome :D Cant wait to see how it will look when the details are finished.
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:12 am

I basically finished the bike last night. I just need to make a foam pad for the kids to sit on.
I took my oldest child to school this morning in the cargo bike, then went to a cafe with my two year old, fantastic fun.

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby amberwolf » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:31 am

How does it handle loaded up vs unlaoded, straight vs turns, slow vs fast, etc? Compared to a typical regular non-suspenison bike, at least?
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby Chalo » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:51 pm

Looks great! When are you putting in the sound system?
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby The fingers » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:03 pm

Love the cradle styled box and the fine workmanship exhibited throughout. Could easily be marketed worldwide as the ultimate in nanny cycles, and for green-minded day care centers; even industrial applications. Plenty of room also for sponsors to rent add space (Gerber, Toys R Us, Pampers, Kellogs, etc.) to help defray the cost of ownership, as well as other commercial uses (flower, pizza, plants, local delivery-you name it). I'll bet the guys on the Shark Tank Business Investors ABC TV show would like to see something like this. Forgive me for the $$s in my eyes. It's a gem, I love it! :D
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:13 am

amberwolf wrote:How does it handle loaded up vs unlaoded, straight vs turns, slow vs fast, etc? Compared to a typical regular non-suspenison bike, at least?

It handles really well. The long wheel base provides a very smooth ride even with very hard tyres.
With no load on board it is very manoverable and corners really well. With two kids(total 35kg) and even one test ride with Aussie jester(80kg???) it's stable and easy to ride. The weight is low and easy to control, even with one child sitting to one side the handling is brilliant.
Chalo wrote:Looks great! When are you putting in the sound system?

This is a good idea and may well happen.:D
The fingers wrote:Love the cradle styled box and the fine workmanship exhibited throughout. Could easily be marketed worldwide as the ultimate in nanny cycles, and for green-minded day care centers; even industrial applications. Plenty of room also for sponsors to rent add space (Gerber, Toys R Us, Pampers, Kellogs, etc.) to help defray the cost of ownership, as well as other commercial uses (flower, pizza, plants, local delivery-you name it). I'll bet the guys on the Shark Tank Business Investors ABC TV show would like to see something like this. Forgive me for the $$s in my eyes. It's a gem, I love it! :D

Thank you for the very positive feedback, I agree there are many possible applications for these bikes and it's happening in Europe and bike friendly cities like Portland in the US.
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby jansevr » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:04 pm

looks great, now all you need is a cushion for the kids!
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby SamTexas » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:15 pm

Wow! What a beautiful, solid bike! What's wrong with you guys in Australia? Are all of you that skilled, that patient, that artistic!?? Geez, great work.

Is it possible that there are more hours in a day in the southern hemisphere? How do you find the time?
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby dodjob » Wed May 07, 2014 4:17 am

Servus :)
Really nice nice built :))
I have some questions ;)
Did you weight your frame? just for reference :)
Is it TIG welded?
Are you still single? :mrgreen:
Now that you probably have some km on it. What do you think you would have make better? (if there is something ;) )
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Re: Long wheel base front box cargo bike

Postby 1000w » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:04 am

Ok, 3 years on from finishing this cargo bike.
It has been awesome, no problems, and done about 2500km.
The family including the dog love it! I thought I would share a photo of my girls being picked up from school.

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