KMX tadpole trike with canopy, Windwrap, cromotor, 10KW

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by MattyCiii » Sep 28 2013 7:12pm

Amazing work, as always Adam. An inspiration!
1st build: Dahon Jetstream folding bike. Quick, reliable, capable of 32mph. Light enough to lift, folds for easy transport by car/bus/train.
2nd build: RC powered 2009 Norco A-Line. Top speed 39mph. Built like a tank, it's resistant to Boston potholes, can stop on a dime, easily goes up/down curbs when necessary.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by wojtek » Sep 28 2013 7:14pm

Holy Moly! that is indeed a piece of art combined with perfect battery placement!

what battery solution are you going to go for? chemistry / v / ah ?
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Sep 28 2013 7:30pm

Thanks Matt and Wojtek :D
wojtek wrote:Holy Moly! that is indeed a piece of art combined with perfect battery placement!

what battery solution are you going to go for? chemistry / v / ah ?
I will have 12 x LiPo Zippy Flightmax 6S/8Ah from Hobbyking combined in a 18S ( 75V )/32Ah pack.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by clark » Oct 13 2013 1:16pm

awesome work adam, absolutely professional.
would love to know your sources/info for battery box, specific wiring#, and connections/plug/switches.
would be a great writeup post of its own, great for serious newbies like me. i've been trying to find it on ES but haven't stumbled upon it yet. i'm probably not looking in right places.

a-line awesome as well.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Oct 15 2013 7:53pm

clark wrote:awesome work adam, absolutely professional.
would love to know your sources/info for battery box, specific wiring#, and connections/plug/switches.
would be a great writeup post of its own, great for serious newbies like me. i've been trying to find it on ES but haven't stumbled upon it yet. i'm probably not looking in right places.

a-line awesome as well.
thanks Clark :D

I started to scan the KMX with a 3D scanner then builded a 3D cad around it using solidwork. The battery box is custom made from my design and was 1050$ for the 4 pieces. ( Alu 5052-H32 1/16" for the top pieces and 3/32" for the bottom ). Finish was done with black powder coated paint. If you go that way, make sure to also have a clear coated powder paint on top of it.

All battery cables came from hobbyking, silicone 8awg. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... BLACK.html

I use the 5.5 mm conector from Hobbyking as well, good for 100+A. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... 20pc_.html

The key switch came from Digikey: CKL12BFW01-024-ND http://www.digikey.ca/product-search/en ... W01-024-ND

regular switches DPDT from Digikey: EG1890-ND http://www.digikey.ca/product-search/en ... maction=on

I used those component on previous bike and they never let me down.

It is always time consuming to build an E-bike, but the time and money is well worth it as you will enjoy the end result for years.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by clark » Oct 16 2013 10:49am

Cheers adam for info on battery plug and wiring. Sorry i looked at digikey and hobbyking, but couldn't find info about the 5 pin power outlet, fuse holder & which level power fuse do you use? Thanks again and in advance

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Oct 20 2013 3:52pm

clark wrote:Cheers adam for info on battery plug and wiring. Sorry i looked at digikey and hobbyking, but couldn't find info about the 5 pin power outlet, fuse holder & which level power fuse do you use? Thanks again and in advance
np,

5 blade connector Female: 7184k33 Mc Master 29.81$

5 blade connector Male: 7184k31 Mc Master 22.62$

Fuse holder AGU Car Audio: Ebay 6$, http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181223189978?ssP ... 1439.l2649

As for the fuse, I used a 120A as the controler is limi0ted to 10 KW.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Oct 22 2013 9:32pm

Took me some time to figure it out, but here is the way to modify the controller to have the wheel go reverse direction.
Cabling is roughly 80 % done now.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Oct 27 2013 10:08am

A few update...

Delrin brackets to hold the controller in place behind the seat:
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I wanted to have the throttle on the right side like a real bike, so I had to make a hole on the bar to pass the wires.
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top bar adaptor to pass the wires while keeping it water sealed ( made out of soft rubber ), sealed with black silicone.
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Right side handle with the 3 speed switch ( 30, 70 and 40 km/h setting ). Throttle with the green button to activate the break regen and the rear break handle.
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Left handle with mirror, front brake handle. I'm still missing the switch to go foward/reverse.
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I am now working on the LED flag while waiting for pieces to finish the battery wiring.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by wojtek » Oct 27 2013 10:44am

great work as usual

if you struggle with the dimensions of the contoller, I actually have source for much more compact one [half size] able to give you up to 10KW. Made in Poland from best possible parts/ components based on 4115 mosfets.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Oct 28 2013 11:00pm

Thanks Wojtek,

I would like to know more about the controller you mentioned pls.

I am now working on the LED flagpole design.

The LED sequence will be driven by an Arduino nano v3.0 @ 12V and I will use Mosfet to drive the leds modules. Power consumption is < 2.4W

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Light on:


light off:


The intent design was to have 2 flagpoles like this, but I am now considering scraping this concept and rebuild a new one with a single Flagpole LED.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by agniusm » Oct 30 2013 1:42pm

Better get red/blue for sure everyone will slowdown :D

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Oct 30 2013 2:00pm

agniusm wrote:Better get red/blue for sure everyone will slowdown :D
hehe, I thought about it, but it is illegal in Canada.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Dec 01 2013 2:25pm

finally some update on this bike.

Arduino Nano package to avoid unwanted spark in the battery box:
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Installation of the battery heater modules:
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12 x 8000mAh 6S LiPo packed in a box: ( 75V 32 Ah )
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Rear fender installed as well with the functional chain:
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Winter is cold, and less wind on the body will help.
WGX Windwrap adaptor for a KMX:
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As per the law, the manifacturer must install an " assisted vehicule" sticker on the bike, so here we are: :wink:
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No rear fender no windwrap look:
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Another pic without the windwrap:
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Now with the WGX Windwrap while being charged:
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by samoloh » Dec 02 2013 1:37am

U finally got it done, nice work
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by madin88 » Dec 03 2013 5:48am

this trike looks like a beast with this big tire :)
how does the battery warmer work (main battery?) and do you know how many watt hours it take to warm the battery from lets say 0 to 20 degree?
At my home we also have winter now and the battery sags a lot more than in summer. Less volts, capacity and so less usable watt hours.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by charleyhaze » Dec 03 2013 5:53am

WOW! That is the coolest trike I've EVER seen! Nice man, nice.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Dec 03 2013 10:39am

Thanks guys :D
madin88 wrote:this trike looks like a beast with this big tire :)
how does the battery warmer work (main battery?) and do you know how many watt hours it take to warm the battery from lets say 0 to 20 degree?
At my home we also have winter now and the battery sags a lot more than in summer. Less volts, capacity and so less usable watt hours.
All battery warmer pads are in series and they draw 70W on the battery. I placed in serie with my switch a module that will stop the current when the inside temperature go above 30 deg C. ( never happen in winter though ) The internal temperature is roughly 10 to 15 degree higher inside compare to outside. So far, I saw now sag at all. I also have 32 Ah available in this pack. ( I leave the heating on full time )

Positive points so far: stable on ice and snow, verry strong acceleration ( I feel pushed into the seat ), no sag with cold temperature, regen alone is verry eficient to stop the bike.

Negative points: Suspension is bad, front fenders are verry bad at stoping water, the rear of the bike slide on the side when using the regen agresively and it can be dangerous to flip on the side.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by jateureka » Dec 03 2013 5:18pm

That's a really beautiful, professional looking build with great attention to detail!
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by IRON DOG » Dec 05 2013 1:10am

REALLY , REALLY , NICE !!!

Specially for the finishing touch on all and every parts :shock:

Please VIDEO , VIDEO , VIDEO

OH , by the way , nice sticker :wink:

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by Mark H » Dec 08 2013 12:05pm

Epic build!

That is all ;-)

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KMX tadpole trike, night time, winter riding

Post by adam333 » Jan 22 2014 2:19pm

thanks guys :D

Here is a short video of the trike in action:



( sorry about the video quality, we had several issues with the camera and I lost several frames )

I will make a new one with a beter camera.
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by jateureka » Jan 22 2014 5:42pm

Nice vid, love the flashing light pole - makes it look like a police vehicle! Do people move over to let you past?
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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by adam333 » Jan 22 2014 9:25pm

jateureka wrote:Nice vid, love the flashing light pole - makes it look like a police vehicle! Do people move over to let you past?
thanks, actually, one guy in a car moved over and let me pass at night. I believe the flashing light was harassing him.

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Re: KMX Typhoon trike, cromotor, 10KW controller, winter des

Post by samoloh » Jan 23 2014 2:51am

nice ride, am so impressed, super neat build
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