Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » Apr 28 2014 1:19am

That's true, most Germans are paralysed by fright. It's called the German Angst. So they sit around watching garbage on TV, repeating the junk others tell them and never have a really personal opinion about whatever.

But there are exeptions.
The stated scenario is a worst case of course. :-)

But that's what most here are afraid of leaving them stuck on the spot.

Germans would be capable of many great things if it weren't for the constant fear of possibly braking the law.
Good for the industry though, as people end up buying instead of building!!
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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by madin88 » Apr 28 2014 11:45am

thanks for the detailed infos. i will make a target date with the TÜV in 2 weeks here in austria (before i have to change the rims to 17" moped rims and tires and i also will do some other improvements on my bike). Im very excited to see what list of points they will prescribe me.
- 10kW belt drive with Neumotor 8057: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=91144&start=50#p1377787
- Fully road legal (L1E approval) e-bike based on Votec V-FR frame
/ MXUS 3T / 17" Mitas MC11 / Adaptto Max-E / 20s12p 25R
- KTM Hardtail Pedelec / eZee V2 6T / 27,5" / Kelly KBSX @ 1,5kW / Torque PAS / CA-V3 / 13s4p Sanyo GA in Shark case

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by izeman » Apr 28 2014 12:10pm

madin: i would NOT change anything by now. give them something to reject. they will and have to find something.
after they tell you can still invest time and money to do everything they tell you :)

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by madin88 » Apr 28 2014 4:49pm

mabye you are right with the TÜV "will and have to find something". if a self made e-bike is built almost perfect to legal requirements, maybe they will take a closer look to all components and in the end it come off poorer than before. i hope there will be a technical validator who is not bad tempered..
today i drove past the cops. fortunately they did not stop me (i was too fast for them.. joke^^) :)
- 10kW belt drive with Neumotor 8057: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=91144&start=50#p1377787
- Fully road legal (L1E approval) e-bike based on Votec V-FR frame
/ MXUS 3T / 17" Mitas MC11 / Adaptto Max-E / 20s12p 25R
- KTM Hardtail Pedelec / eZee V2 6T / 27,5" / Kelly KBSX @ 1,5kW / Torque PAS / CA-V3 / 13s4p Sanyo GA in Shark case

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » Apr 29 2014 6:20am

That's the most important issue!

Finding a TÜV engineer that instantly falls in love with the bike.
Those that have a heart and consciousness for all the work done,
are exactly what you need.

The rest is a lot of paperwork and nothing compared to
building the bike. :-)

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 05 2014 1:32pm

Insurance has been taken care of and the license plate is now an important part of the bike. :mrgreen:

Did a long ride around Dresden today with no issues. Just pure enjoyment is my constant companion.

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by pucksterpete » May 05 2014 3:43pm

Nicely done man :)
Optim Alp Hardtail with MXUS Motor
20S 2P Turnigy 5.0 Hard Case
Top speed 38mph tops :)
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http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 97#p585997
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Excelsior/Strong GTS with Cromotor
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Top speed so far 53mph
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =6&t=46993

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 10 2014 10:10am

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Legal on the move.

:mrgreen:
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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by pucksterpete » May 10 2014 10:16am

Out exploring!!! MC tires make the difference
Optim Alp Hardtail with MXUS Motor
20S 2P Turnigy 5.0 Hard Case
Top speed 38mph tops :)
Hyena Special
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... 97#p585997
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Excelsior/Strong GTS with Cromotor
24S 3P Turnigy 5.0 Hard Case
Top speed so far 53mph
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =6&t=46993

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 10 2014 12:08pm

That´s right, i´m the silent urban explorer. :-)

Love those motorcycle tires. They give such a precise feel for what´s happening. Great work there from the tire guys at HEIDENAU !!

When my bulk charger is finished, next up on the agenda is a ride to Berlin.
I´m checking out all the mobile charging stations on the way to make sure there´s never a lack of electrons. :mrgreen:

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by dh-paule » May 13 2014 1:31pm

Glückwunsch Martin !
So ein Kennzeichen am Bomber ist ein Traum :-)
it was a very exciting time riding a stealth bomber

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by John Bozi » May 13 2014 2:51pm

How much is yearly registration and insurance? Is the insurance also third party? ie you hit the latest bmw on the road...
Can you ride this on the bicycle section too?
impressive build mate

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by dh-paule » May 13 2014 4:59pm

third party insurance is the main reason to get it street legal
it was a very exciting time riding a stealth bomber

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Merlin » May 14 2014 3:50am

John Bozi wrote:How much is yearly registration and insurance? Is the insurance also third party? ie you hit the latest bmw on the road...
Can you ride this on the bicycle section too?
impressive build mate

~75$ / Year

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 14 2014 2:48pm

Sorry for showing off a bit here.

Love the ride she gives me. :mrgreen:

My doctor said it´s hopeless. It´s an uncurable mechanic type of love that has gotten a hold of me.
He urgently recommended to ride as much as possible.
The drug is the cure here. -lol-

If it were´t for all the stuff to fix around the house i´d start a new build right away.

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Allex » May 14 2014 6:35pm

Interesting, What does your german pedelec forum guys tells you about your build?

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 15 2014 12:21am

So far there was no reaction.
But that's surely due to the fact that none of the builds details have been mentioned there.
They'd instantly ban me from the forum!

Let them stick to the boring mainstream toys, while here on ES us boys go for the really fun stuff. :mrgreen:

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Merlin » May 15 2014 7:25am

haha this suckers....they banned me too ^^

bunch of fuckers ^^

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 15 2014 11:17am

-LOL-

That´s Germany!

But they can´t ban the internet.
Information is freedom! :mrgreen:

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Allex » May 15 2014 12:23pm

What happened to your bomber frame? Any plans on it or is it pieces?

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by dh-paule » May 15 2014 12:38pm

Merlin wrote:haha this suckers....they banned me too ^^

bunch of fuckers ^^
I am not banned, should I ..... ;-)
They couldnt ban legal information about a legal bike!

Or lets wait for the video :-))

dLogic, I did some testflights today, unfortunately crashed the copter. No major damage, need some new props from HK and it will be fine for filming :-)
it was a very exciting time riding a stealth bomber

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 15 2014 1:35pm

Sorry to hear that. You´ll fix it fast. I´m sure about that.

On Monday the guys at the factory invited me to show the bike.
This would be just the thing if someone there caught fire for it. :mrgreen:

There´s so many people stoping me all over town asking all kinds of questions.
Seems like an alien is cruising around on his weird looking vehicle. -lol-

All the positive feedback has feed the dream even more!

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 15 2014 1:37pm

Allex wrote:What happened to your bomber frame? Any plans on it or is it pieces?
Dlogic wrote:The original bomber is still intact. It wasn't harmed in any way. Right now it just sits there in the basement.

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Dlogic » May 25 2014 3:31am

Just cracked the 5000 Km mark. Been riding around an average of 87 Km per day.

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The only problem so far was a broken wire inside the throttle cable. So the cheap wires that came with the throttle where replaced with a steel flex outer case industrial type for rugged use. :mrgreen:

The pack has given me 117 cycles so far and shows no signs of capacity loss.

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Re: Street LEGAL Custom Bomber build! :-)

Post by Allex » May 25 2014 4:14am

I guess you only ride in dry conditions given that you dont have any fenders?
You should take this model to a production line =)

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