Vector bike and frame owners.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Dec 17 2016 11:53am

Its getting fishi around here.. Comeone guys that has nothing to do anymore with Vector. I like reading stuff in this thread but not your argumentation about such off topic things.. :pancake:
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by steam25 » Dec 17 2016 11:57am

DasDouble wrote:Its getting fishi around here.. Comeone guys that has nothing to do anymore with Vector. I like reading stuff in this thread but not your argumentation about such off topic things.. :pancake:
agree! for me this thing is done.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Dec 17 2016 1:36pm

Part 2


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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by madin88 » Dec 17 2016 4:30pm

ziltoid81 wrote: I also dont get the story 100% right so far........but dont have time to read everything either.
Battery was unbalanced since day 1 or not?
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For me its no problem to check a battery, others dont even know what a single cell is........or a cell group etc.....or how to measure its voltage....what drift is dangerous and what is normal.
read a few posts from here:

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 2#p1248326

given thats the truth, you know everything.
- 10kW belt drive with Neumotor 8057: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=91144&start=50#p1377787
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Dec 17 2016 9:25pm

Artur wrote:Part 2

@Artur: Awesome vid. How long can you drive like this in minutes / hours until you have to charge again? :D
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Joachim » Dec 18 2016 11:40am

testride?

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Dec 18 2016 5:04pm

Part 3


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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Joachim » Dec 19 2016 6:31am

results of the testride? is this with new motor/mid drive are bigger battery?

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Dec 19 2016 6:48am

Joachim wrote:results of the testride? is this with new motor/mid drive are bigger battery?
This ride was on my own bike with 20s10p battery and hub motor. I called it test, as I never did it before there.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Joachim » Dec 19 2016 11:44am

Ok so the bike is Alp prove :D
Wil there be a new vector frame/bike-mid drive in 2017?

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Dec 19 2016 1:33pm

Joachim wrote:Ok so the bike is Alp prove :D
Wil there be a new vector frame/bike-mid drive in 2017?
I can't tell the date now, but I tested it and I like it!

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by lionelt » Dec 25 2016 11:52am

My Vector finished (start this summer...)
Very smooth et enough power to go on mountain (i live in Alps France)

18S LIPO 20AH x 6 = 75V 40AH mxus 3000 v3 4T
setup 3 speeds switch : 25km/h (1000W), 50 Kkm/h (2500W) and 75km/s (5000W/70A)

Wheel 26" with tyre Kenda 2,70, Wattmeter , charge plug and soon charger under seat, KTM Theme because i've got it (Duke 690)
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Vector MXUS V3
18FET Lyen
18S 40AH LIPO
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E-Chopper Nirve Switchblade
GM MP2 front wheel
GT 130 Wattmeter
48V 12Ah LI-ION case
All electronic & battery inside bag in leather brown assorted with Seal and handle
Range 35 kms - Speed 40km/h no assist direct from handle throtle

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Dec 26 2016 4:17am

That bike is looking great. Nowadays there are also black screws available. Just ask Anastasia for it, if you are interested :)
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by lionelt » Dec 29 2016 3:47pm

DasDouble wrote:That bike is looking great. Nowadays there are also black screws available. Just ask Anastasia for it, if you are interested :)
thx i prefer "orange"
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GM MP2 front wheel
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Range 35 kms - Speed 40km/h no assist direct from handle throtle

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Ohbse » Dec 30 2016 10:01pm

Artur wrote: Image
From everything I have read Artur has done an excellent job as a vendor and provided substantial support, it is not clear what precisely caused the fire - but aside from that this pictured battery could be improved dramatically. I suggest reading this thread: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 14&t=84412

Key things I can see,

There are only two connections between the paralleled groups, for a pack this size this is dramatically undersized
The primary connections to the pack are effectively connected with only a single nickel strip
There doesn't appear to be any physical isolation between the parallel groups, especially in this square layout there's lots of opportunity for point loading and rubbing through the stock shrink sleeve leading to a short. This could be as little as a layer of Kapton tape like you've used on the top of the pack

My personal rule of thumb is 1.5mm2 of nickel per high current 18650, more if possible. The design above is more like 0.27mm2. This will definitely get hot under constant discharge.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by vectorIbike » Jan 26 2017 2:30am

We are in the process of concluding an agreement with Artur.
He has taken my remarks into account and is ready to reimburse me 3000 €uros, 50% of e-bike
This gesture is in agreement with my initial request and is satisfactory.

The reason of fire is unknown at the moment

Once this payment has been made we will do our utmost to find together the cause of this fire.

The complaint will be withdrawn and the prosecution abandoned.

I undertake to remove the photographs and text upon request.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Jan 26 2017 6:26am

vectorIbike wrote:We are in the process of concluding an agreement with Artur.
He has taken my remarks into account and is ready to reimburse me 3000 €uros, 50% of e-bike
This gesture is in agreement with my initial request and is satisfactory.

The reason of fire is unknown at the moment

Once this payment has been made we will do our utmost to find together the cause of this fire.

The complaint will be withdrawn and the prosecution abandoned.

I undertake to remove the photographs and text upon request.
Thank you.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Jan 27 2017 1:26am

Could someone please tell me what length I need for the QS V3 screws? Like 22mm maybe? Longer? Shorter?

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Jan 27 2017 5:23am

DasDouble wrote:Could someone please tell me what length I need for the QS V3 screws? Like 22mm maybe? Longer? Shorter?

Thanks!
For rotor?

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by litespeed » Jan 27 2017 11:21am

DasDouble wrote:Could someone please tell me what length I need for the QS V3 screws? Like 22mm maybe? Longer? Shorter?

Thanks!
Most brake rotors need to be spaced out for the brake caliper to fit and not rub the motor cover. On my QS 205 I had to space the rotor out about 5mm and then custom cut the machine screws so I had full depth of thread for strength. Each hole is not the same depth so each of the 6 screws were each a different length.

Good luck with this.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by devmanner » Jan 30 2017 11:46am

Has anyone packed as many 18650 cells in the vector frame as they can? Just wondering what I could do range wise some time in the future. Currently I have a 22s 12p battery 30ah. I run a modded sabvoton 150A controller unlocked to do 200A.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Artur » Jan 30 2017 12:05pm

devmanner wrote:Has anyone packed as many 18650 cells in the vector frame as they can? Just wondering what I could do range wise some time in the future. Currently I have a 22s 12p battery 30ah. I run a modded sabvoton 150A controller unlocked to do 200A.
We use 300 cells battery. And max outside the main part. Up to 160A can Max-e push.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by DasDouble » Jan 30 2017 2:48pm

devmanner wrote:Has anyone packed as many 18650 cells in the vector frame as they can? Just wondering what I could do range wise some time in the future. Currently I have a 22s 12p battery 30ah. I run a modded sabvoton 150A controller unlocked to do 200A.
I have done that with spacers. It is really close, but it fits. My configuration is 20s 15p. Under normal conditions I will get up to 100km when my math is correct, with about 36Wh/km. Time to build the pack: 30 hours, as I have done that with highest precision on each single cell.. Has been a lot of an effort. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Cheers
Has been a lot of an effort. :roll: :roll:
PS: But it´s worth it, the power and range is incredible :wink:
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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by Allex » Jan 30 2017 4:00pm

20s31p 620pcs fits in the vector.

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Re: Vector bike and frame owners.

Post by scrambler » Jan 30 2017 4:43pm

Wow, If my calculations below are correct, that is about 5.7kwH (or even more depending on the cells) !
(20 x 3.7 = 74 Volts and 31 x 2.5 = 77.5 Ah -> 74 x 77.5 = 5,735 Wh)
Over twice the size of the one shipped standard, so it must be close to 30kg.

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