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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Samd » Aug 15 2015 7:33am

Laced up a 24*50mm front rim with a 3" berm master
Unfortunately the 19*3.75 inch rear tyre ain't gonna cut it.
Pass me the five inch grinder dear.
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Unfortunately schlumpf hsd looks like at least a 30 tooth front is needed to clear swinger.
Equivalent to a 75t front :mrgreen:
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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Rix » Aug 15 2015 10:29am

Rodney64 wrote:Fitted the throttle and batteries

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Also wired up the circuit breaker so all I need to do now is fit soldier the hall wires.

I'm using a 120 amp circuit breaker. I will need to set max amps on the max-e at 120.

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Rod, I like your bike, its looks great with the 3.00-17 SR241 front and rear. Whats your initial impression riding around under pedal power only? Your bike looks like an old school TT short tracker. How much clearance do on between the sides of the swingarm and tire?

@SamD, holy tire batman, that's a big rear tire you got on you machine. Got to weigh 10 or 11 pounds. What did you plan on doing with it?

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Post by drew12345 » Aug 15 2015 2:58pm

Very exciting seeing the progress u guys r making. Thanks for all the pics.

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Post by 9lives » Aug 15 2015 5:24pm

Rodney64 wrote:Fitted the throttle and batteries

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Also wired up the circuit breaker so all I need to do now is fit soldier the hall wires.

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I'm using a 120 amp circuit breaker. I will need to set max amps on the max-e at 120.

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Rod, what throttle are you using? Looks like a moto throttle from image.

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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Rodney64 » Aug 15 2015 6:23pm

9lives wrote:
Rodney64 wrote:Fitted the throttle and batteries

Rod, what throttle are you using? Looks like a moto throttle from image.
Yes it a motorcycle throttle, testing at this stage. Domino Motorcycle Cable Throttle.
Kepler wrote:Bike looks great Rod. The small splashes of red really suit the white frame. Size wise, the bike looks to be good fit for you too. Look forward to hearing how the bike performs and how it compares to other builds you have done.
the bike feels good Kelper. Just need the seat up a bit higher. Standover heights good for me as well.

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Rodney64 wrote:Fitted the throttle and batteries



Also wired up the circuit breaker so all I need to do now is fit soldier the hall wires.

I'm using a 120 amp circuit breaker. I will need to set max amps on the max-e at 120.

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Rod, I like your bike. Whats your initial impression riding around under pedal power only? Your bike looks like an old school TT short tracker. How much clearance do on between the sides of the swingarm and tire?
Felt good Rick, not too cramped and it will be good for pedalling. My knees never touched the sides. The clearance between the tyre is 10ml exactly on each side.
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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Kepler » Aug 15 2015 7:10pm

Samd wrote:Laced up a 24*50mm front rim with a 3" berm master
Unfortunately the 19*3.75 inch rear tyre ain't gonna cut it.
Pass me the five inch grinder dear.


Unfortunately schlumpf hsd looks like at least a 30 tooth front is needed to clear swinger.
Equivalent to a 75t front :mrgreen:
Hey Sam. You might be able to build a good ebike but your photography skills suck.

Step up young man and give us some better detail. :P
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Post by Samd » Aug 15 2015 7:58pm

I haha a deliberate tease.

Actually my kids killed my Samsung. Welcome to the aldi phone camera

Fancy a ride from Ballarat to creswick in the mud soon?
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Post by Kepler » Aug 15 2015 9:27pm

Sounds like a plan Sam. Let me know what date works for you.
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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Rodney64 » Aug 15 2015 10:57pm

I have her running, a lot of hard work





Photo today after my first test ride. I made a change and fitted a DNM 220mm 550 lb rear shock to the rear. The shock is in the Lowest position. (More bottom bracket clearance)


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Running 48 volt I managed 60kph,
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Post by Rodney64 » Aug 15 2015 11:09pm

I know everyone is interested in stand over height and bottom bracket height

A couple of photos


Standover height 710mms and bottom bracket is 360mm.

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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Rix » Aug 15 2015 11:42pm

Rod very sweet, leave it to you to get the first Flux going. You should change your OVS to 7 and tell me what you get for top speed.

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Post by Hyena » Aug 16 2015 2:01am

Rod, keep in mind those breakers are typically specced for 12 or 24v operation so will behave differently at higher voltage. Unless others have documented that specific type it might be a bit of a 'suck it and see' type outcome. Did you change something around with your shock position ? Previously you said the BB clearance was 400mm but it's now only 360mm ?

I moved my shock mount from the bottom to top position (only one hole up) and it dropped the BB height quite nicely. Moving the shock mount up ~10mm has dropped the BB 400mm down to 360mm and I can now flat foot the bike. I would ideally like the bike a tad lower again but this is easily achievable by trimming a bit off the top of the seat tube. 10mm off will sit me as low as I need to go for the steep and technical sort of offroading I often do. It could still go lower again by flipping the seat mount upside down, but I dont want the BB any lower than this and for my height it wont be necessary.
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Step up young man and give us some better detail. :P
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Re: Flux owners builds and pics

Post by Rodney64 » Aug 16 2015 2:09am

Yes it's a smaller rear shock Jay. 220mm previously it was 250mm. And yes those breakers are 12volt
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Post by Samd » Aug 16 2015 2:29am

I'm amazed your camera focused on those wee little tyres Jay. :p

Here ya go kep.
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My biter is looking cool.

Fair bit of room in the swingarm of a phasor I am building. Might see if the customer prefers a moto rear because I would hate to ever have to get that tyre back off! Getting it on was like trying to square dance Gina Rhinehart in a phone booth.
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Tempted to get my fabricator to knock some space into that swinger. That speedway tyre would be perfect for all the local goldfields clay and gorse. Would love this 3.75 inch tyre.

Phasor swinger for contrast with 3 inch Berm Master
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Post by Hyena » Aug 16 2015 8:31am

Samd wrote:I'm amazed your camera focused on those wee little tyres Jay. :p
hah, it's only a mock up at this stage, but this will be my middle weight bike so won't be getting anything too chunky.

Here's a few more shots.
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Post by Mammalian04 » Aug 16 2015 10:03am

Very nice Hyena. Love that color.

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Post by wojtek » Aug 16 2015 11:00am

Absolutely fantastic. Both colours rock!
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Post by chucho » Aug 16 2015 12:44pm

Rodney64 wrote:
9lives wrote:
Rodney64 wrote:Fitted the throttle and batteries

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Also wired

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Rod, what throttle are you using? Looks like a moto throttle from image.
Yes it a motorcycle throttle, testing at this stage. Domino Motorcycle Cable Throttle.
Kepler wrote:Bike looks great Rod. The small splashes of red really suit the white frame. Size wise, the bike looks to be good fit for you too. Look forward to hearing how the bike performs and how it compares to other builds you have done.
the bike feels good Kelper. Just need the seat up a bit higher. Standover heights good for me as well.

Rix wrote:
Rodney64 wrote:Fitted the throttle and batteries

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Also wired up the circuit breaker so all I need to do now is fit soldier the hall wires.

I'm using a 120 amp circuit breaker. I will need to set max amps on the max-e at 120.

pg[/img][/url]
Rod, I like your bike. Whats your initial impression riding around under pedal power only? Your bike looks like an old school TT short tracker. How much clearance do on between the sides of the swingarm and tire?
Felt good Rick, not too cramped and it will be good for pedalling. My knees never touched the sides. The clearance between the tyre is 10ml exactly on each side.
Nice throtle. :mrgreen:
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Post by chilau2000 » Aug 17 2015 2:53pm

Hi Hiyena

A few questions on your build ?

Rear shock length
Hubmotor and spoke gauge

Thanks

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Post by fullonoob » Aug 17 2015 5:27pm

Samd wrote: Reamed the bb and added a schlumpf hsd but need to check chainstay clearance for chain.
How hard is it to ream the bb?

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Post by Mammalian04 » Aug 17 2015 6:27pm


The DNM 220mm with the spring seems to be the better of those two options. With our big heavy eBikes, most people don't like the air shocks. Also, the air shock is a bit short (at a maximum of 190) unless you are trying to get the bike lower or are really compensating for some bigger wheels.


EDIT: AH! You're a quick one. You edited the post before I finished responding. :wink: Option 3 would be great to handle the weight but 280 seems a bit too long. Your geometry will be off. Unless you like that NHRA funny car look on your eBike. :)

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Post by Hyena » Aug 17 2015 6:48pm

chilau2000 wrote:Hi Hiyena
A few questions on your build ?
Rear shock length
Hubmotor and spoke gauge
Shock length is 220mm and unless you're quite tall I reckon this is the way to go. With the seat post right at the bottom and adjustability in the shock mount it will suit people down to 5'6" up to around 6' before you even start to play with the length of the seat post.
Hope motor and spoke gauge is 'choose your own adventure' depending on how and where you ride. On this build mine will be a mid spec hub motor and either adaptto mini or maxi
fullonoob wrote:How hard is it to ream the bb?
You'll need the special milling tool. Unless you already have it I was planning to buy the tool and do this so it's already supplied pre-done. I'm thinking I would also need to supply the special box spanner that's used for inserting the drive. The tool is $200+ so you guys don't want to have to buy that but the box spanner is only $20 and it's both necessary for installation and useful to have if you even want to remove the drive for servicing or replacement. If a group of you in each country want to share the spanner you can but for $20 I would think it's probably not worth the shipping costs to bounce it around.
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Post by chucho » Aug 17 2015 6:56pm

Hyena wrote:
chilau2000 wrote:Hi Hiyena
A few questions on your build ?
Rear shock length
Hubmotor and spoke gauge
Shock length is 220mm and unless you're quite tall I reckon this is the way to go. With the seat post right at the bottom and adjustability in the shock mount it will suit people down to 5'6" up to around 6' before you even start to play with the length of the seat post.
Hope motor and spoke gauge is 'choose your own adventure' depending on how and where you ride. On this build mine will be a mid spec hub motor and either adaptto mini or maxi
fullonoob wrote:How hard is it to ream the bb?
You'll need the special milling tool. Unless you already have it I was planning to buy the tool and do this so it's already supplied pre-done. I'm thinking I would also need to supply the special box spanner that's used for inserting the drive. The tool is $200+ so you guys don't want to have to buy that but the box spanner is only $20 and it's both necessary for installation and useful to have if you even want to remove the drive for servicing or replacement. If a group of you in each country want to share the spanner you can but for $20 I would think it's probably not worth the shipping costs to bounce it around.
I dont now what the spanner is but it sounds like i will need one :wink:
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Post by chucho » Aug 17 2015 7:27pm

Ok, i went to the web to find out (try to learn something new every day :mrgreen: )
But they are loads of things called "spanner" :lol:
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Box spanner(G), multiC spanner(G), C-spanner(B)
What is the one you are talking about?
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