A couple more Norcos

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A couple more Norcos

Post by Samd » Nov 08 2018 10:19pm

Have done a few of these over the years but haven’t been around much. Using ES FB mostly. Love the new forum update here.

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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by cal3thousand » Nov 09 2018 12:18pm

Once again, you've made some fine frames, Sam.

Can't wait to see the final products.
Get a Cycle Analyst and a Multimeter, you're still a noob if you don't have at least one of each.

Planning on posting questions or buying anything on this site? Put up your country (at minimum) on your profile. This is a worldwide forum and we haven't reached clairvoyance.

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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by tolkaNo » Nov 10 2018 2:23am

How much are they?

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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by Samd » Nov 10 2018 3:11am

Usually around 1700 to 2000 AUD depending on config. If I can find time.


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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by tolkaNo » Nov 10 2018 11:03pm

Samd wrote:
Nov 10 2018 3:11am
Usually around 1700 to 2000 AUD depending on config. If I can find time.


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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by Samd » Nov 13 2018 5:13am

Yep. The clients I attract understand the properties of such a frame. When I priced them too low the wrong people asked.


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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by Tommm » Nov 13 2018 7:17am

Says $390 in the shop, what's so special about these?

I hope the answer isn't "if you have to ask, it's not for you", like if Yoda himself forged them in his mud hut. :lol:

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Post by PRW » Nov 13 2018 8:55am

I live in a world where innovation, design skill and craftmanship are valued.

Not everything can or should be broken down to base material cost and compared to cheap alternatives - although if you do, there is still value here, where you add the original frame, design, fabrication, welding and painting that happened.

Try pricing out a Rolex in terms of material cost... :D

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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by Samd » Nov 27 2018 11:56pm

Tommm wrote:
Nov 13 2018 7:17am
Says $390 in the shop, what's so special about these?

I hope the answer isn't "if you have to ask, it's not for you", like if Yoda himself forged them in his mud hut. :lol:
Haha those were kmart bikes I did nearly a decade ago. These are pedigree DH bikes with a patented rear end, welded by a qualified first world welder, heat treated and professionally coated.

I stopped pricing anything even close to that number five years ago - not because of the quality of the goods.
I did it because of the quality of my customers.

These days I no longer even have to take emails from fools and itemise every nickel and dime. People want an engineer with a 100k degree and want to pay ten bucks for it. They can go buy a ukrainian or chinese stealth copy made of pig iron.

I've literally put bandsaws through bikes once owned by Sam Hill. If you have to look him up you're in the wrong thread.

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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by Tommm » Nov 28 2018 5:35am

Samd wrote:
Nov 27 2018 11:56pm

I've literally put bandsaws through bikes once owned by Sam Hill. If you have to look him up you're in the wrong thread.

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What was wrong with his bikes that you had to cut them up? You deal with used ones too?

How many batteries fit in a frame like that?

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Re: A couple more Norcos

Post by Samd » Nov 30 2018 3:21pm

About 110 cells easily or 130 with more complex shapes.

Couple more ready for blast and paint. Raw aluminium would be kinda cool.

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