Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 21 2022 9:19am

Greetings! I do not know how to write a separate publication, so I apologize for getting into someone else's! Help me please!!
I read this thread 2 times!! Almost a month of experiments, more than 700 screenshots from here. Thanks to all the participants, I learned a lot.. BUT:
The problem, which I consider the main one, remains. I'll start over with a Chinese direct drive motor of 1500 watts, I purchased an EM - 50 controller. And there is a problem with regeneration when the throttle is released. She annoys me. I have a habit and love to coast. But no, it doesn't work. Moreover, the regeneration is so strong that when the ignition is on, I can’t even pedal. HELP ANYONE! Tried everything I could. Wrote to support, no response.
Then I read that someone did not have this regeneration, but they managed to turn it on. I didn’t find a post as a person did it (because of this I re-read it 2 times). But the bottom line is that if you can turn it on, then you can turn it off? Right? HOW TO DO IT!?? Annoying when you release gas and stupor. In the last video from votol, you can see that a person starts the engine without regeneration, then he presses something in PB 15 and the regeneration starts working, but the quality is very poor and you can’t see what he is doing !!! I tried to change something, but nothing happened.
Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66XnN7IrjdE
Oh, I ask for help .. Roll forward is everything for me !! I can't ride with permanent regen!!! :-(
I will be grateful for any help!!

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by j bjork » Jun 22 2022 2:14am

Well, what do you have in PB 15 then?
Do you have "not used" or did you change to that?

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 22 2022 3:00am

j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 2:14am
Well, what do you have in PB 15 then?
Do you have "not used" or did you change to that?
j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 2:14am
Well, what do you have in PB 15 then?
Do you have "not used" or did you change to that?
Here are my settings! I tried to change it in different ways, but no change .. :-(
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by j bjork » Jun 22 2022 5:04am

There is no PB15, I think it was PD15 that was for engine braking.
Have you set PD15 to "1:empty_func" ?

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 22 2022 6:03am

j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 5:04am
There is no PB15, I think it was PD15 that was for engine braking.
Have you set PD15 to "1:empty_func" ?
Installed, rebooted, nothing changes.
Or what do you mean? What exactly should I do. I am writing to you through a translator..

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 22 2022 6:15am

j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 5:04am
There is no PB15, I think it was PD15 that was for engine braking.
Have you set PD15 to "1:empty_func" ?
Made it like this. Nothing too. Did you mean it?
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by j bjork » Jun 22 2022 7:35am

Yes, but only PD15.
And you saved and turned off the controller afterwards?
In that case I dont know.

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 22 2022 9:35am

j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 7:35am
Yes, but only PD15.
And you saved and turned off the controller afterwards?
In that case I dont know.
Thank you anyway! Yes, I put an empty value on PD 15, saved it, restarted it. Nothing. There is regeneration.
I think that it is wired into the controller initially, just somehow it needs to be disabled programmatically. By making the field empty, the settings inside the controller remain.
And in the video, a person somehow turns them off and on ..
Would like to know how..
Thanks again for your attention.
I will continue to suffer :-(
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 22 2022 10:41am

Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 6:03am
j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 5:04am
There is no PB15, I think it was PD15 that was for engine braking.
Have you set PD15 to "1:empty_func" ?
Installed, rebooted, nothing changes.
Or what do you mean? What exactly should I do. I am writing to you through a translator..
I have a controller, Em150 with firmware 2.32. The regeneration can be switched off here!

I have another Em150 with firmware !!2.33!! It doesn't work there!

What firmware do you have?

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 22 2022 2:03pm

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 10:41am
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 6:03am
j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 5:04am
There is no PB15, I think it was PD15 that was for engine braking.
Have you set PD15 to "1:empty_func" ?
Installed, rebooted, nothing changes.
Or what do you mean? What exactly should I do. I am writing to you through a translator..
I have a controller, Em150 with firmware 2.32. The regeneration can be switched off here!

I have another Em150 with firmware !!2.33!! It doesn't work there!

What firmware do you have?
I have just 2.33
Is this a verdict? :-(
Can't it be reflashed?

Forced regeneration is not right! Everyone doesn't need it! For me and my two-wheeled friend with direct drive, this is a torment!!! (((
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 22 2022 3:12pm

Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 2:03pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 10:41am
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 6:03am
j bjork wrote:
Jun 22 2022 5:04am
There is no PB15, I think it was PD15 that was for engine braking.
Have you set PD15 to "1:empty_func" ?
Installed, rebooted, nothing changes.
Or what do you mean? What exactly should I do. I am writing to you through a translator..
I have a controller, Em150 with firmware 2.32. The regeneration can be switched off here!

I have another Em150 with firmware !!2.33!! It doesn't work there!

What firmware do you have?
I have just 2.33
Is this a verdict? :-(
Can't it be reflashed?

Forced regeneration is not right! Everyone doesn't need it! For me and my two-wheeled friend with direct drive, this is a torment!!! (((
So far I haven't succeeded with 2.33.... But the controller in the video looks quite new. He should not have an old firmware, right? We do not know it! It's very hard to see what he's doing...

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Santiagolc » Jun 22 2022 3:52pm

Hello, I have not found concise information on the forum about adjusting the torque. I have a Votol Em-100 with a 2000W motor. I am trying to adjust the torque because the motor is having trouble going up slopes, from a standstill. What settings do I need to change to increase the torque? The torque labeled settings don't change anything, so I don't know what to do.

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 23 2022 5:00am

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 3:12pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 2:03pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 10:41am
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 6:03am


Installed, rebooted, nothing changes.
Or what do you mean? What exactly should I do. I am writing to you through a translator..
I have a controller, Em150 with firmware 2.32. The regeneration can be switched off here!

I have another Em150 with firmware !!2.33!! It doesn't work there!

What firmware do you have?
I have just 2.33
Is this a verdict? :-(
Can't it be reflashed?

Thank you for your attention and information! I think that in firmware 2.33 this regeneration mode should also be disabled. The method may just be different. The support guys are silent, but I will write to them again.
I can't believe everyone likes forced regeneration. For a direct drive motor, this is very annoying. For those who like to ride freely - too. In general, thank you for your attention !!. I am grateful to you! I will try to disable this mode further.
I beg you, if you manage to turn off the regen from the throttle, please let me know! I really want to get rid of forced regeneration ..

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 23 2022 5:05am

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 3:12pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 2:03pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 10:41am
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 6:03am


Installed, rebooted, nothing changes.
Or what do you mean? What exactly should I do. I am writing to you through a translator..
I have a controller, Em150 with firmware 2.32. The regeneration can be switched off here!

I have another Em150 with firmware !!2.33!! It doesn't work there!

What firmware do you have?
I have just 2.33
Is this a verdict? :-(
Can't it be reflashed?

Forced regeneration is not right! Everyone doesn't need it! For me and my two-wheeled friend with direct drive, this is a torment!!! (((
So far I haven't succeeded with 2.33.... But the controller in the video looks quite new. He should not have an old firmware, right? We do not know it! It's very hard to see what he's doing...
Thank you for your attention and information! I think that in firmware 2.33 this regeneration mode should also be disabled. The method may just be different. The support guys are silent, but I will write to them again.
I can't believe everyone likes forced regeneration. For a direct drive motor, this is very annoying. For those who like to ride freely - too. In general, thank you for your attention !!. I am grateful to you! I will try to disable this mode further.
I beg you, if you manage to turn off the regen from the throttle, please let me know! I really want to get rid of forced regeneration ..

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 24 2022 1:27pm

Transerfer wrote:
Jun 23 2022 5:05am
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 3:12pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 22 2022 2:03pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 22 2022 10:41am


I have a controller, Em150 with firmware 2.32. The regeneration can be switched off here!

I have another Em150 with firmware !!2.33!! It doesn't work there!

What firmware do you have?
I have just 2.33
Is this a verdict? :-(
Can't it be reflashed?

Forced regeneration is not right! Everyone doesn't need it! For me and my two-wheeled friend with direct drive, this is a torment!!! (((
So far I haven't succeeded with 2.33.... But the controller in the video looks quite new. He should not have an old firmware, right? We do not know it! It's very hard to see what he's doing...
Thank you for your attention and information! I think that in firmware 2.33 this regeneration mode should also be disabled. The method may just be different. The support guys are silent, but I will write to them again.
I can't believe everyone likes forced regeneration. For a direct drive motor, this is very annoying. For those who like to ride freely - too. In general, thank you for your attention !!. I am grateful to you! I will try to disable this mode further.
I beg you, if you manage to turn off the regen from the throttle, please let me know! I really want to get rid of forced regeneration ..
And it works, for me...... Tadaaaaa
It is very important to set the "start voltage" setting to the lowest possible value!!
Only then will it work.
The firmware is programmed very dirty and this context is idiotic. In the driving test, at very low speeds, I can feel a very slight, pulsating regeneration. Not relevant to me. Finally wants to roll over a jump with speed without accelerating.
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 24 2022 2:41pm

:bigthumb: Excellent, Paulflieg!! I haven't tried this yet! I tried to separately remove the percentage of regeneration. I tried to reduce the starting voltage separately. Together in this combination did not try! And I have hope! I will definitely try tomorrow!
I circled your screenshots in red. Is this how I should do it?
Did I understand you correctly?
Thank you so much! I'll be sure to post tomorrow how it went!
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 25 2022 2:00am

Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 25 2022 6:12am

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
"Allow regeneration: disable"
is this "ebs ratio"? 0%
Yes, I will do the same as in your screenshots. I wrote that the throttle stick can support 0.9. Maybe less, I'll try.
Thank you friend! I'll test today, I'll be sure to write the result!

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 25 2022 12:14pm

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 25 2022 1:42pm

Transerfer wrote:
Jun 25 2022 12:14pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(
Show your "page1" settings! You have to go as low as possible with "start voltage" really! If too low, then error, in the monitor page! Then higher again... Etc. Switch off-always! Reboot and check in the Monitor page! Regeneration is displayed when the gas is released = bad! Regeneration is not displayed = good!

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 25 2022 2:27pm

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 1:42pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 25 2022 12:14pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(
Show your "page1" settings! You have to go as low as possible with "start voltage" really! If too low, then error, in the monitor page! Then higher again... Etc. Switch off-always! Reboot and check in the Monitor page! Regeneration is displayed when the gas is released = bad! Regeneration is not displayed = good!
I can't understand.. Maybe the translator doesn't translate correctly?
What is "start voltage" and what is "turn off always"??
On the monitor page, gas reset regeneration is displayed!
Show me what to fix on my settings. And better underline with a red line!
All settings are sent!
Thank you!
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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 25 2022 4:15pm

Transerfer wrote:
Jun 25 2022 12:14pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(
The value for "start voltage" must be determined! Not easy to assume my value. You have a different throttle grip and therefore a different value!

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 26 2022 12:45am

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 4:15pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 25 2022 12:14pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(
The value for "start voltage" must be determined! Not easy to assume my value. You have a different throttle grip and therefore a different value!
Greetings! At 0.89 it no longer starts. 0.9 is also my minimum value. Most likely the controller has it in the program.

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Paulflieg » Jun 26 2022 4:40am

Transerfer wrote:
Jun 26 2022 12:45am
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 4:15pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 25 2022 12:14pm
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 2:00am
Releaseregeneration: switch off


As said, the starting voltage has to be found out by experiment. As low as possible! 0.9 is right for my throttle grip
Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(
The value for "start voltage" must be determined! Not easy to assume my value. You have a different throttle grip and therefore a different value!
Greetings! At 0.89 it no longer starts. 0.9 is also my minimum value. Most likely the controller has it in the program.
Ah yes, then take over all my values ​​in throttle and start settings as a test.

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Re: Votol EM-100 & EM-150 controllers

Post by Transerfer » Jun 26 2022 5:14am

Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 26 2022 4:40am
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 26 2022 12:45am
Paulflieg wrote:
Jun 25 2022 4:15pm
Transerfer wrote:
Jun 25 2022 12:14pm


Unfortunately, it did not work out.. Everything is unchanged for me.. :-(
The value for "start voltage" must be determined! Not easy to assume my value. You have a different throttle grip and therefore a different value!
Greetings! At 0.89 it no longer starts. 0.9 is also my minimum value. Most likely the controller has it in the program.
Ah yes, then take over all my values ​​in throttle and start settings as a test.
It's a good idea! I will definitely try today! Thank you!

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