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TheBeastie   1 MW

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Re: Security

Post by TheBeastie » Dec 15 2015 11:24pm

OK everyone I just found the ultimate ebike protection.
Looks like you can get them from China on the cheap too.


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Re: Security

Post by HamsterPower » Jan 20 2016 7:01am

Not counting indirect protections, I've gone though what some might consider extreme measures to secure my trike.

1. Physical - my setup is insanely expensive and weighs about 20lbs but has no equal (can't be jacked, picked, shimmed, bumped or non-hydraulic cut- must use sledge hammer with huge bottle of liquid nitrogen or grinder and I don't know of a battery grinder that will do it on 1 battery):
- Huge, hardened chain - https://securitysnobs.com/ABUS-Hardened ... Chain.html
- Shrouded lock - https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-Protec2 ... dlock.html
- Locked to concrete floor with this anchor - https://securitysnobs.com/ABUS-Wall-Flo ... -Hasp.html

2. GPS locator: http://www.iotatracker.com/
- It's new & unproven, still delivering to kickstarter sponsors
- no recurring costs, doesn't use the cell service
- uses your and other's home network with 1 base (yours) to cover something like a 6 mile radius (not sure of customer coverage beyond San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA)
- hidden on trike very well due to small size
- geo fence eats battery within a week or so but without, lasts several weeks
- recharges with USB, might leave on trike indefinitely if I can wire it in
- has decent iPhone app, all promised functionality is not there yet
- can trigger beeper from phone but why bother when it clues them into where it is installed
First ever ebike build. Currently sourcing on-road commuter e-bike drive for 26" rear tadpole trike, goal is 40mph sustained- likely build:
Tangent Ascent w/Astro Flight 3210 & CA
2WD Adaptto & Leaf 1500
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Re: Security

Post by LockH » Jan 20 2016 8:58am

Hey HP... Very interested to hear how you make out with that Iota Tracker thingee! (They will ship to Canada.) Iota as seen on YT:


(Perhaps unfortunate how some folks name their children. Oh well.)
ES changed my life (for the waaaaay better).

Eff. June, 2014 Phoenix Ebike Promotions

(Current ride? High speed lawn chair.)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57408

Phoenix Ebike Promotions conversion kit (work in progress. More drink holders, etc etc)
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60564

Joined yer local chapter of EA yet?
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Re: Security

Post by TheBeastie » Jan 20 2016 9:19am

LockH wrote:Hey HP... Very interested to hear how you make out with that Iota Tracker thingee! (They will ship to Canada.) Iota as seen on YT:

(Perhaps unfortunate how some folks name their children. Oh well.)
Yeah I wanted to say something about it when I first saw it but I thought I would hang back.. But now I can't...
I have seen many mesh style wireless network hopes for probably 20 years some of them were big plans that came went a long time ago from companies like Nokia etc, so I am pretty dubious that Iota will be big enough to come effective.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network

I don't want to sound negative on their hopes but to me it seems like an excellent kickstater scam to promise and then fail and simply point to lack of take up as the fault of the mesh network not getting around. I am pretty sure the device they are selling costs no more then $20 to build when you consider what you get with a complete and powerful computing device like that packed into a Raspberry Pi etc and this iota device only needs a tenth of the capability to do what it promises the rest is based on everyone in the world buying one and installing it in their homes and offices...
If everyone else doesn't go and buy one and install the home base wireless device to contribute to the wireless mesh network then its not much different then one of these, but hopefully a bit better quality etc...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dog-Kid-Pet- ... SwT4lWQ-Ug

http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/15/iota/
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Re: Security

Post by LockH » Jan 20 2016 3:37pm

Hehe... The "problems" of being an "Early Adopter". Best part maybe? A sign/label that announces "GPS Tracker Installed and Armed". Maybe add a Blinkie LED light to "ice the cake". :)
ES changed my life (for the waaaaay better).

Eff. June, 2014 Phoenix Ebike Promotions

(Current ride? High speed lawn chair.)
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=57408

Phoenix Ebike Promotions conversion kit (work in progress. More drink holders, etc etc)
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=60564

Joined yer local chapter of EA yet?
(Ebikers Anonymous - Where we're all miserable failures, but the parties are hilarious...)

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Re: Security

Post by The fingers » Jan 26 2016 10:30am

http://www.cyclelicio.us/2016/a-cute-cr ... -campaign/Alternative to those black widow trap bike lockers. :|
Here’s an interesting idea: What if you could get a few thousand of your closest friends to each contribute $3 for a chance at secure bike parking in your city?

That’s the idea behind Bindio (pronounced “bind ee oh”), a startup housed at a Baltic tech incubator in Riga, Latvia.
Bindio has piloted a system of posts with heavy-duty 3.2 kg chains to secure bikes in the Latvian capital. Users secure and release the locks using a smartphone app, a little bit like a bike share kiosk.
Bike parking like this allows you as a cyclist to secure your bike without having to carry a lock around. It’s still up to you, of course, to correctly lock your bike so you don’t lose your rear wheel, seatpost, handlebars and accessories.
This crowdsourcing campaign is a little different from the usual “pre-pay for your unique product” Kickstarter. $3 buys you a vote to have Bindio racks installed in your city should the campaign succeed. They bet that you’ll bet to win, and perhaps they hope for some regional competition a bit like cities sweetening the pot with cash incentives to bring the Olympics to town. Paying above and beyond buys you additional votes.

If you want, you can also buy a complete Bindio kit for $1620. This includes a master control unit, a bicycle dock with two locks, and a pole. Shipping to the USA is an extra $150, and installation is your responsibility.

Readers of Cyclelicious are already asking “What about people without smartphones and bank cards?” The existing solution of carrying your own lock still exists, of course. The BikeLink program of using a reloadable smart card to accommodate those who use cash only hasn’t exactly taken off in the Bay Area and in Santa Cruz (more on this below).
Learn more about this product and campaign at Kickstarter: Bindio: The smartest, most secure bike parking stand.
Black Schwinn High Sierra
Blue Schwinn Cruiser 5
Blue Schwinn High Plains
Black Fiore Cruzer 5: Amped Warp Drive 26" Front DD/SLA kit
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Re: Security

Post by markz » May 01 2018 3:45am

This unit looks good as it is cheap. I am only 35' away so I'd hear it with the door closed.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Bicycle-Bike-An ... Swq~tZNiFc

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