The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

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The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by steveo » Dec 19 2016 1:16am

Hey everyone,

I thought i'd share my little project. I recently purchase a Snow Joe ION18SB Snow blower to clear my driveway and at the same time save my back. It has a 500lb throw rating which is quite low compared to a gasser unit of the same size.I ran it with a 12s3p 15ah turnigy battery (i purchased the unit without battery), first impression on a light snow fall of about 8 inches or soo... worked like a charm. Second snow fall came along.. and i waited till the end of the day to use the blower, this time the snow was a bit more heavy, the unit still worked well, however it would start to struggle if i didnt give it a little more time when pushing it along. I should mention one of the reasons i bought the unit was that is was battery powered, and brushless!

So i decided to crack open it's little plastic covers, and disect its internals. Turns out there is a small brushless 3 phase 500w est sensorless motor with a tiny 500w or 20amp 6 fet controller set to run with the oem 40v lithium ion battery.

So naturally I modified it's controller starting with removing its cheap chinese transistors and replacing those with 6 genuine irfb4110, then of course thickening up those tiny pcb traces.. and doubling up the oem fuse from 40amp to 80 amp, adding two fuse holders as well (i was not sure of its original current rating before modifiying.. should of amp clamped it!). Put some nice proper teflon insulators.. proper screws with lock washers.. new teflon tape... some fresh thermal paste, and i sealed up the controller. After battling the covers to put the blower back together she was ready for more snow.

I defenatly did notice a improvement, this time I did amp clamp it on the next snow fall and got 35amp peak @ 46v nominal pack voltage. Still sluggish in the really wet stuff, I have yet to upgrade it's 14 gauge wires where I can.. and upgrade some of the cheap chinese connectors to try and reduce some voltage sag. I will also boost up the current rating to around 50 to 60amps as i feel that's what i would be happy with and i feel it should take it just fine since duty cycle is not constant.. at least when i'm doing my driveway anyways.

I'll leave you with some photos and videos below, I hope you enjoyed the read

https://youtu.be/o003TpCSZuE

happy holidays everyone!
-Steveo
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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by liveforphysics » Dec 19 2016 1:48am

Nice hotrodding Steveo!
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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by Wheazel » Dec 19 2016 5:00am

Nice project :)
How many Wh would you typically need to clear your driveway? And how big is it?

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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by steveo » Dec 19 2016 1:53pm

Wheazel wrote:Nice project :)
How many Wh would you typically need to clear your driveway? And how big is it?

well i have a two car driveway.. id say around 400wh or so depending on the type of snow etc.

-Steveo
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Hub Monster bike ~ 24s7p A123 15.4ah/18kv Six Phase Motor/Dual Max-E Adapttos/32kw~42.91Hp/Est 140LBS
X6 Kmx Trike ~ 24s4p 20ah/X6 MHM 602/Infinion EB324 IRFB 4110/20Kw~26.82Hp/Est 120LBS ~SOLD~
Lightening rods bike ~ 18s2p 10ah/1500w Inrunner/Infinion EB312 IRFB4110/2KW~2.68hp/Est 60LBS
EV Outboard ~ 12s8p 40ah/5KW GM Inrunner/Infinion EB324 IRFB 4110/18Hp Evinrude Drive/Est 100lbs
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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by Foob » Dec 21 2016 9:55pm

Awesome. I just bought the 56v Ego snowblower with 2x5ah packs. On the 4 or 5 inches of wet snow we got at the weekend, it cleared my driveway, my front path and the sidewalk in front of the house. Not much energy left by the end, but it didn't quit. It couldn't get much of the snow that the ploughs compacted across the driveway opening, but even the big 5 horse 2-stage ICEs don't do well at that.

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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by steveo » Dec 21 2016 9:59pm

i did want the ego.. but its over 1k plus tax here with the 2 5ah batts i believe.. to expensive for me atm...

i know the snow joe probably won't compare power wise.. i'd love to see the motor and controller the ego uses

-Steveo


Foob wrote:Awesome. I just bought the 56v Ego snowblower with 2x5ah packs. On the 4 or 5 inches of wet snow we got at the weekend, it cleared my driveway, my front path and the sidewalk in front of the house. Not much energy left by the end, but it didn't quit. It couldn't get much of the snow that the ploughs compacted across the driveway opening, but even the big 5 horse 2-stage ICEs don't do well at that.
Repair Thread
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =3&t=27170
Hub Monster bike ~ 24s7p A123 15.4ah/18kv Six Phase Motor/Dual Max-E Adapttos/32kw~42.91Hp/Est 140LBS
X6 Kmx Trike ~ 24s4p 20ah/X6 MHM 602/Infinion EB324 IRFB 4110/20Kw~26.82Hp/Est 120LBS ~SOLD~
Lightening rods bike ~ 18s2p 10ah/1500w Inrunner/Infinion EB312 IRFB4110/2KW~2.68hp/Est 60LBS
EV Outboard ~ 12s8p 40ah/5KW GM Inrunner/Infinion EB324 IRFB 4110/18Hp Evinrude Drive/Est 100lbs
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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by Foob » Dec 22 2016 5:22pm

1k? Ouch! It was 600 here. I'd be interested in the internals myself, but the 3 year warranty is discouraging me from cracking the case open. I had one of their lawnmowers die on me this summer, and they replaced it with a newer model, so it's worth not voiding I think. At 60 amps/2.4kw, I bet you'll have more throwing power than my stock Ego!

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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by steveo » Dec 22 2016 9:58pm

Foob wrote:1k? Ouch! It was 600 here. I'd be interested in the internals myself, but the 3 year warranty is discouraging me from cracking the case open. I had one of their lawnmowers die on me this summer, and they replaced it with a newer model, so it's worth not voiding I think. At 60 amps/2.4kw, I bet you'll have more throwing power than my stock Ego!
it depends if motor can produce the power or if it will saturate instead
Repair Thread
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewto ... =3&t=27170
Hub Monster bike ~ 24s7p A123 15.4ah/18kv Six Phase Motor/Dual Max-E Adapttos/32kw~42.91Hp/Est 140LBS
X6 Kmx Trike ~ 24s4p 20ah/X6 MHM 602/Infinion EB324 IRFB 4110/20Kw~26.82Hp/Est 120LBS ~SOLD~
Lightening rods bike ~ 18s2p 10ah/1500w Inrunner/Infinion EB312 IRFB4110/2KW~2.68hp/Est 60LBS
EV Outboard ~ 12s8p 40ah/5KW GM Inrunner/Infinion EB324 IRFB 4110/18Hp Evinrude Drive/Est 100lbs
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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by Kin » Nov 16 2018 11:24am

Hey,,, sorry to bump an old thread. This is the only modified snow joe thread I could find, and I was thinking about doing the same thing. I am currently undecided whether I should just go for a 15A corded model or go for the slightly weaker and more expensive battery model knowing that I have spare fets and 12S batteries to modify it with.

How would you rate your experience with modified snow joe? I am basically considering the $180 15A 22" corded model https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing ... dition=all
or a refurb model of the IONSB-pro for $270 (similar to your model) which I'd modify with some spare 12S 15Ah lipo batteries to wear in a backpack.

Basically looking for any tips or things you've decided after the last two winters :)



Edit I went with the ion-pro 21" refurbished for $180 on their ebay outlet :D. We will see how it goes.
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Re: The Snow Joe ION18SB Snow Blower... modified..

Post by markz » Nov 21 2018 6:55pm

steveo wrote:
Dec 19 2016 1:53pm
Wheazel wrote:Nice project :)
How many Wh would you typically need to clear your driveway? And how big is it?
400wh
-Steveo
Cool and quick snow removal.

I prefer warm yet quick ;)
Somedays I just dread shoveling snow.
I often think of crazy and wacky idea's of how I would install something to do less work around the house. My only conclusion would be to install an air system around the edges of the driveway and sidewalk to blow the snow away, only downside is you'd only get a quarter of the driveway, then hop in an enclosed cab ride on mower with a snow plow blade or a spinning brush which would do quick work. You know how

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