Hillhater wrote: ↑
Apr 06 2018 12:47am
BUT... Those are all "Nameplate". capacities,
before CFs are applied.
So the real cost per kW is 5-8 times that amount !......$4.0 - $8.0+ Usd$/kw..
because this is nonsense as others already told you (many times).
The capacity factor is included in the calculation of the producing cost of electricity per kWh.
You should stop to mix kW and kWh. Power and energy are not the same.
Maybe this document can help you to understand the Basic facts on PV in Germany:
https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/content/d ... ermany.pdf
It's "pro PV" by nature of the publisher, but the supplied data is true.
And ...you still have the issue of intermittent supply and the added cost of storage or back up generation (eg, Germany and Australia)
As long as PV power is below 100% of demand there is no Need for storage (simplified of course)
If there is excess power on some hours per year you need storage not for 100% of solar energy, but maybe for 1-2% (or you just throw them away, which makes the rest ca. 1-2% more expensive, which is what we do now)
Btw, nukes also need backup and storage, just look at France.
One detail from that is a quote for a new build HELE , coal fired, 2400MW generator at Au$2000m (usd$1500m). Which means usd$ 0.63 /kw.. With a CF of 90%+
A CF of 90%+ is only good for the power plant Operator, but horrible for the grid.
You Need very flexible(!) fossil power plants, not those that run continously. A flexible power plant can not have high CF.
The 2400MW hele plant could supply 19,000,000 MWh per year , on demand ,continuous 24/7.
There is no continous demad, especially if you wnat to include RE in your grid.
The result of such a coal power plant is that you will have to burn that coal for the next 40 years in a very unflexible grid.
The second option is, that investment in that power plant is wasted money.
Your agenda is burning coal forever.
That's your right but I belive that it is a stupid idea to promote technology from the 19th century as a solution for the fututure of the 21st century.
I assume that you also do not believe in a future with electric cars either but believe in burning Diesel forever?
What will Australia look like in a world 4K hotter than today?
Germany is cold and wet and sitting north of the Alps. 4K will harm us, too, but Australia?
(4K is the difference between the last ice age and today and we will most likely reach it with BAU during the 21st century. You are not even talking about BAU, but promoting to burn MORE coal.)