cricketo wrote: ↑
Feb 25 2019 7:58pm
sendler2112 wrote: ↑
Feb 25 2019 7:48pm
Please feel free to post something that refutes the pricing as shown above.
Nah, it's okay. Keep reposting stuff from crap websites
That electricity price global chart came from Australian Financial Review, one of the most respected
news papers in Australia, they are a daily print
paper as well, so this article was actually printed in mass.
So AFR actually are a real and very sue-able newspaper in other words, they do not make mistakes, more or less, if they do they would be forced to make a retraction.
https://www.afr.com/news/australian-hou ... 804-gxp58a
I am directly embedding THEIR image of that chart
It's a pretty simple fact, the more wind-turbines/solar you have and the more you try to actually RELY on them and utilize them, the more your electricity bills go up.
It's no coincidence South Australia, Germany and Denmark and Italy are at the top.
The more coal and even gas thermal generation is ditched in Australia the more electricity bills have shot up.
South Australia more than any other state in the world has tried to rely on their wind-farms as much as possible and the result is the most expensive electricity in the world.
It's actully gone up since that article.
This guy on Twitter frequently posts the latest weekly MWh costing averages in Australia for each state. SA going up like a rocket
Electricity Prices in the Australian NEM 24 Jan to 22Feb 2019
Average price $173.70/MWh
Qld Avg price $107.42/MWh
NSW Avg price $121/MWh
SA Avg price $388.36/MWh
Vic Avg price $352.42/MWh
TAS Avg price $156.93/MWh
Why is Victoria and South Australia so much more expensive?
And Victoria is pretty much there as well as they ditch more of their coal generation and try to drop gas generation. Problem with Victoria is the wind is a lot crapper than SA's coastline. Victoria will always have comparatively dog crap wind "Capacity factors"
And we all know about the secret hidden costs.
For example, they are now going to build huge new expensive electricity transmission towers all over the western side of rural/country side Victoria ENTIRELY JUST FOR NEW WIND FARMS..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-17/ ... y/10808534
It's going to devalue all the farm properties because no one likes to live near or look at huge transmission electricity towers.
Because wind-farms have sudden surges of wind the transmission towers have to be extra robust, so all the extra gold-plating is implemented to make wind-farms work just pushes up the cost of electricity bills, but of course, pro-renewables people never attach new expensive transmission towers to a new wind-farm cost.
Everyone just blindly trusts established broadcast media that renewables are cheaper simply because the wind is free, broadcast media don't care what the truth is, they just want something to say for folks to listen too.
The false economy of old protected broadcast media adds to the problem. My biggest hope is that broadcast media is destroyed by IP-streaming only media via technologies like 5G. Broadcast media is just cancer on the world.
Most of the big fossil fuel corporations have happily embraced renewable energy, have you ever wondered why?
The big fossil fuel companies hire all sorts of very smart people, traditionally fossil fuel companies have even been one the biggest users of supercomputers for things like geological surveying of where fossil fuels might be etc.
It's clear the big fossil fuel companies did the numbers and modelling a long time ago and worked out that the ONLY THING POSSIBLE
wind/solar can do is push up the cost of energy overall, which is just simply perfect for the big fossil fuel guys.
So, of course, they embrace it.
The biggest problem big energy companies have is being able to push up energy prices without everyone noticing it.
Their situation of having traditional simple industry where energy is just sucked out of the ground made it hard to hide any price gouging, but advent of renewables makes the perfect cover and complication of the energy market, greenies/leftists/politicians pushing renewables for their own little devious gains is literally a gift from God for the big energy corporations.
All the wind/solar subsidies and RET false economies built on more false economies that these renewables cause that just completely distort the frock out of the market, no one wants to build reliable normal generation because the rules are that if the wind blows the electricity retailers HAVE to buy that electricity first.
It's like having two petrol stations, if the "renewable petrol station" randomly opened and the rules were everyone MUST buy from them whenever they are randomly open, would you bother trying to build a traditional petrol station next to them? no never!
It just wouldn't be worth it, and if you did you would charge big dollars for when anyone did come into buy fuel.
This is what subsidies and RET rules/false economies create with wind/solar on the grid. It's a mini version of socialism but on the electricity grid.. Venezuela anyone? https://twitter.com/Edwinsson/status/11 ... 8338796544
Capitalism works because it creates competition, socialism fails because it removes competition.