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Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Jul 29 2018 1:03pm
by ChargePoint
We recently took a test drive in the new Jaguar I-PACE, you can check it out on YouTube. :)


Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Jul 30 2018 3:28pm
by markz
Driving a NJ plate in San Diego.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Jul 31 2018 9:20am
by ChargePoint
The engine sound feature they have is interesting! What did you think? It's only audible inside the car.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Jul 31 2018 5:38pm
by Hillhater
ChargePoint wrote:
Jul 31 2018 9:20am
The engine sound feature they have is interesting! What did you think? It's only audible inside the car.
Cheap sales gimick
Many years ago i bought a $10 gadget that plugged into the car 12v outlet and connected via FM tuning to the car audio. It picked up ignition emf and converted it to an audio signal synced to engine rpm.
You could chose what soound simulation you preferred ..V8, FI, Harley D, Mad Frog, etc etc..
I had mine set for Muscle car V8...a big ego boost from a quiet eco hatch 4 cyl....
But you get the idea..nothing very clever or new in that trick. :roll:
PS... The novelty value soon wears off !

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Jul 31 2018 10:14pm
by markz
Harley Davidson is making their silent electric motorcycle have the classic rumble sound.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 01 2018 4:30am
by Punx0r
I suspect it's a tacky gimmick originating from the marketing department who had spoken to lifelong ICE-drivers who said they were used to the vroom, vroom noises. Then decided an EV would be better with engine noise...

If I was being charitable I could maybe imagine it helps people who are used to driving by ear. That is, maintain their speed based on the engine note.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 01 2018 9:07pm
by wturber
Hillhater wrote:
Jul 31 2018 5:38pm
The engine sound feature they have is interesting! What did you think? It's only audible inside the car.
Yeah. Reminds me of the V-rrrr oom that I had when I was a kid. The fun of that wore off quickly as well.



Of course, just because it is a cheap gimmick doesn't mean it won't be wildly successful.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 01 2018 11:00pm
by zro-1
From what I've seen of online videos, one of the "EV Smile" moments people have is when they feel the torque from a standstill but with no (or minimal) noise from the vehicle. They use the phrase "like on a magic carpet".

I don't think EVs should make noise for the benefit of the driver. On the other hand, making noise for the benefit of people around them that are too busy looking at their phones while crossing the street—that's another thing.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 01 2018 11:23pm
by wturber
zro-1 wrote:
Aug 01 2018 11:00pm

I don't think EVs should make noise for the benefit of the driver. On the other hand, making noise for the benefit of people around them that are too busy looking at their phones while crossing the street—that's another thing.
Agreed. Some kind of "presence" noise during slow operation (perhaps 15 mph an lower) is probably a good idea for safety.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 01 2018 11:41pm
by KalSteve
I vote for Darwin. Leave the cars quiet, disregard the bereaved during their reality disassociation phase and soon enough the new generation will learn that situational awareness is more important than their mobile devices when crossing the street.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 02 2018 12:38am
by Hillhater
With all the much hyped Autonamous controls they are capeable of, and AEB being almost standard now, why can they not automatically blast the horn if a Ped/moron steps out infront of the moving EV.?
That way you have the pleasure of silent vehicles for both occupants and normal pedestrians, with the alert only when needed .

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 02 2018 1:52am
by wturber
KalSteve wrote:
Aug 01 2018 11:41pm
I vote for Darwin. Leave the cars quiet, disregard the bereaved during their reality disassociation phase and soon enough the new generation will learn that situational awareness is more important than their mobile devices when crossing the street.
The problem with that is that sometimes the person not paying attention is the one in the EV.

Re: Test driving the Jaguar I-PACE

Posted: Aug 02 2018 3:02am
by amberwolf
And might not be driving on the street anymore because of it.... (happens with ICE cars, nothing different about an EV as far as that goes, and many newer ICE cars are so quiet at low speeds they might as well be silent other than tire noise, in some cases).

Punx0r wrote:
Aug 01 2018 4:30am
If I was being charitable I could maybe imagine it helps people who are used to driving by ear. That is, maintain their speed based on the engine note.
FWIW, I hadn't realized it but I had gotten used to using the trapezoidal generic controller noise in my hubmotors to gauge my speed, subconciously.

I realized it in the last week, when I began testing the SFOC5 sinewave FOC controller over here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30680&start=25#p1393153
which is effectively silent in operating the motor (though it has a very annoying constant multifrequency noise (which vibrates the trike and makes a "hissing") even when not moving, that is apparently a side effect of the current-control/position-monitoring algorithms, and apparently other such controllers also make that noise. Noise or not, it's still a nice controller).

It's easy enough to still control my speed with it, but it took a bit of getting used to; as now it is more like the wind pushing me from behind, rather than a motor pulling me along. :)

I MUCH prefer the complete silence of the motor, over any kind of added noise, or the trap noise, etc.

Quiet motors are one of the biggest reasons I went electric instead of ICE when I got into this whole motorized-bike stuff in the first place. :)