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20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOUND ]

Postby neptronix » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:15 pm

EDIT: I FOUND ONE

Hi! i am looking for a bike/bike frame that can handle a 6 foot tall rider and was designed for 20" wheels..

this includes..
Strong GTS
Mongoose CX24
Downtube folders
Dahon folders..
etc.

Most have at least front suspension and the ability to use 2.0" wide tires.

I'm in Utah, USA.. what have you got for me?
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby amberwolf » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:44 pm

How about building one just for the purpose? Or modifying an existing one?

FWIW, a 24" frame wouldn't be too tough to modify to use for 20" wheels, if it already has a high BB.

If you need rear suspension that complicates things; if it's not too bad fatter tires would help some.

Front suspension is fairly easy to modify whatever fork to handle a smaller wheel--if it's disc brake there's not really any mods needed; use a 26" or larger fork on a 24" frame to help make up for the smaller diameter wheel; fatter tires help make up the rest.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby spinningmagnets » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:29 pm

I like the Yooniq for its large rectangular hole in the frame "triangle". But...it's way pricey for what you get.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby melodious » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:35 pm

http://respectcycles.com/products

Cons: 130mm rear dropouts width limit motored hubs
Pros: CrMo frame, wider BMX type tires, large central frame

My plan was to transfer my BBS2 from a snapped Tern folder to this bike. I never could figure what their bottom bracket was a while back. But they've since added a few more pics in their site and it looks like it would work. Never plunged to this build as my BBS2's innards grinded itself to death.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby Chalo » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:15 am

melodious wrote:http://respectcycles.com/products

Cons: 130mm rear dropouts width limit motored hubs
Pros: CrMo frame, wider BMX type tires, large central frame


Respacing a sturdy chromoly frame like that is easy. Finding a 20" suspension fork with a suitably long steer tube for that frame is not easy.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby fechter » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:43 am

Look for an old A2B Metro.

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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby chvidgov.bc.ca » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:05 pm

Cannondale Hooligan
Catrike Road Rear9C2805 KU123Sensorless CA
Devinci Vancouver Hybrid Front9C Disk
SunEZ1LWBent 20"R/16"F Bent C404 Front 48V KU123
Townie D7 Cruiser C406Front KU123 Sensorless 48v Headway
Sun EZSportCX 26R/20F LWBent C405 Front 48V 35Amp Crystalyte Start Imm
Giant Revive LX 20" 7Sp RearSusp with Conhis front. 48V KU123
Actionbent T1 trike with Rear9C2806 KU123Sensorless CA
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby neptronix » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:48 pm

I've seen the respect cycles bike and it looks like adding a suspension fork would adversely affect the geometry because it has such a short wheelbase already, and there is no extra fork height built in.. you'd have to use 18 inch bike tires ( good luck finding such a tire worth a damn ) in order to get the right geometry. But the stem tube length on suspension forks might not be long enough as well.

Same can be said of most minivelos.. i've looked at them all.

I had an A2B and weighed the frame. It's around 16lbs.. quite a pig. The frame design also makes using a large battery a bit of a bother. Already walked away from one of those.

Well, i've got nothing.. so i ordered up something elsewhere that is compromised but probably usable. Thanks anyway.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby neptronix » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:51 pm

chvidgov.bc.ca wrote:Cannondale Hooligan


Yeah, those are ace.. they seem to be going for quite a bit of money on ebay.
Almost everything is right on those, except for how the triangle is constructed.

https://www.electricbike.com/matts-astro-hooligan/

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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one?

Postby chvidgov.bc.ca » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:44 pm

I've got two Hooligan's, one with a Cute 100 front, and one unelectrified for groceries...they are both super nice in their respective niches..."inner space" riding. Some days I just go meditative and start doing balances and figure 8s.
I got one for 300 bucks on craigslist. It's supposed to be Cannondale's stiffest frame with the super compact overbuilt triangle.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby neptronix » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:37 pm

I found a bike.. too impatient to wait for a hooligan to come about used.

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If that doesn't work, i'm going about pulling a recumpence and flipping the shock linkage or putting a long shock on something. --^
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby fechter » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:16 pm

Where's the motor?
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby Chalo » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:16 pm

fechter wrote:Where's the motor?

I think the motor was taking the picture.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby Antenor » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:52 pm

Whats the brand and model?

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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby Brentis » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:58 pm

neptronix wrote:I found a bike.. too impatient to wait for a hooligan to come about used.

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If that doesn't work, i'm going about pulling a recumpence and flipping the shock linkage or putting a long shock on something. --^


Congrats on the acquisition.
What make/model?
Looks the business. That front end, killer!
So many options with this platform.
What's the plan?
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby Antenor » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:18 am

Share that secret model with us :)

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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby neptronix » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:40 am

I was planning on doing a full writeup before i talked about it.. but this is what i bought:

https://downtube.com/downtube-9fs-full-suspension-folding-bike/

More on another thread later on.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby Antenor » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:33 pm

I understood that you bought the bike in the picture ...
Was that one that I would like to now the model...sure looks good

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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby mark5 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:19 pm

That picture is from:
http://www.electricbike.com/matts-astro-hooligan/ wrote:A Diamondback X6 modified with 20-inch wheels and longer forks, also with a longer shock to rotate the swingarm down.

A Downtube 9FS example would be like YPedal's build.
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Re: 20" wheel bike frame that fits an adult.. got one? [ FOU

Postby Brentis » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:58 pm

Thanks for sharing Mark.
That conversion looked the business.
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