LG Chem 10S2P battery modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU] [SOLD]

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LG Chem 10S2P battery modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU] [SOLD]

Post by Monstarr » Sep 05 2017 8:56am

These LG Chem built modules contain very high quality NMC pouch power parallel 15 ah cells from LG Chem configured in 37V30Ah - 10S2P order for 1100 Wh's of capacity. The rigid steel OEM sideplates provides excellent compression and has connection for watercooling system. It has a plastic protective cover over the cell tabs and terminals and there is a direct balance lead connection and two connectors for the thermistors (blue wires) built in the pack.

Balance pin-out of the 14 pin connector (Molex Microfit 3.0 - MX-43025-1400) - cable is not included.
1 X X X X 10 9
2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Cell 1 connect to - gives single cell voltage
Cell 10 connect to - gives full pack voltage

The same cells are also used for example in Opel Ampera/Chevy Volt/Renault Zoe packs.
These modules are excellent for slim light-weight powerpacks in scooters, cargobikes etc.
Weighing around 10 KG.

The onboard electronics board is a cell voltage & temperature node and sends information by CAN bus to the pack's main hub.
It doesn't really have any value to DIY because you need to reverse engineer the whole protocol and CAN language. Besides, it will only tell you monitoring information. It can't shut down the power like a BMS can.

Dimensions:
130 mm wide
280 mm high
320 mm long (w/o coolant tubes 300 mm)

The modules currently have a storage voltage and are stored dry.
Modules are located in Breda, The Netherlands, Europe.
Shipping optional if possible. PM for more info.

Price:
1 module: € 175
2+ modules: € 150/pc
per 2 with original flexible high current interconnect for series connection.

If any questions, feel free to ask.

Warning:
**Use this modules only with appropriate BMS with balancing, monitoring and shutoff protection and protective encasing against shock and environment**
**Don't charge at low temperatures**

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Post by boisrondevens » Sep 05 2017 1:56pm

Can you ship to Canada?

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Post by Monstarr » Sep 05 2017 2:48pm

boisrondevens wrote:Can you ship to Canada?
No i am sorry. These modules can not be shipped by air unfortunately. At least afaik.

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Re: LG Chem 10S2P modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU]

Post by abahanad » Sep 06 2017 4:17am

hello,
they seem pretty good for my ebike build,
how much current can they handle (per pack)
will you ship to the UK?
nominal and max voltage per pack?

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Post by Monstarr » Sep 06 2017 4:48am

abahanad wrote:hello,
they seem pretty good for my ebike build,
how much current can they handle (per pack)
will you ship to the UK?
nominal and max voltage per pack?
Yeh, so most lithium chemistry's (NMC, NCA, LMO, LCO) range somewhat from 3 Volt empty to 4,2 Volt full. Some even higher, some a bit lower. LiFePO4 & LTO are another story, but that is not the case here.
Ideally, you want to charge to 4,0-4,1 Volt/cell most of the time to strongly increase cell longevity and don't discharge far below 3,5 Volt. There is very little energy left at that point anyway.
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More info on getting the most life of your cells as possible: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/arti ... _batteries

So these cells offer 10 C according to LG Chem 15 Ah cell test reports. 10 C means 300 A @ 37 Volt which is pretty insane for a 10 KG package if you ask me.
That probably is the reason it has liquid cooling ;). Way way more current potential than any kind of LEV would need. So don't worry.

PHEV cells, which these are, are power cells. Which means their engineering emphasis lies on delivering high power instead of having a big wh per kg/energy ratio. This is because in PHEV the batterypack is relatively small compared to full electric vehicles but it still needs high power delivery capability to propel the mass of the car. These LG Chem cells are about 150 Wh/KG. In contrast modern Tesla Model S cells (NCA) are energy cells with 250 Wh / KG. This doesn't mean they are better, but they are different. Those Tesla cells don't offer very high C rating for example but rely on the packs cell masses for the super high ludicrous 1500 A current delivery.

I will send you a PM for the details on delivery.

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Re: LG Chem 10S2P battery modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU]

Post by mjar99 » Sep 11 2017 2:17am

Can they be reconfigured to 20s1p for ebike use?

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Post by Monstarr » Sep 11 2017 2:56am

mjar99 wrote:Can they be reconfigured to 20s1p for ebike use?
They are hard configured to 10s2p.
So no, not without any DIY effort.

Havin' said that, please check the second last photo. There you can see the parallel connections between the cellpairs.
You can pry these connection off of eachother and end up with 20 bare cells with long easy workable cell tabs. If you'd search in the large and famous A123 pouch cell topics from yesteryears you find out that a lot of hobbyists and inspiring professionals already figured out great solutions for these type of pouch cell battery builds.

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Re: LG Chem 10S2P battery modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU]

Post by Juwe » Sep 11 2017 10:28am

How much it is postage cost to Slovenia?

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Post by Monstarr » Sep 11 2017 2:02pm

Juwe wrote:How much it is postage cost to Slovenia?
Please pm how many modules. I will send you the price.

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Post by wojtek » Sep 14 2017 4:13pm

mjar99 wrote:Can they be reconfigured to 20s1p for ebike use?
+1
Would also be interested in plug and play 20s solution
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Re: LG Chem 10S2P battery modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU]

Post by 999zip999 » Sep 19 2017 10:33am

Would love a 20s 1p but think the tabs are laser welded and are shorted in the process. Looking for 15 -20 ah nmc cells 5c or better ?

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Post by Monstarr » Oct 08 2017 9:01am

Bump.
Got a few modules left.

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Post by wojtek » Oct 21 2017 5:05am

MSGed you.
ps. how old are those modules?
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Post by Monstarr » Oct 21 2017 9:59am

wojtek wrote:MSGed you.
ps. how old are those modules?
prod date 8-2013
Vehicle itself was from 2015 (don't know exact month). It had around 50 k km on the clock.
I will reply to your message, thanks :)

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Post by Monstarr » Nov 02 2017 4:24am

Got some new modules :)
Several happy ES users bought these to full performance satisfaction.
Lowest price, € 0,14 per Wh !

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Re: LG Chem 10S2P battery modules - 37V30Ah - 1100 wh [EU]

Post by galderdi » Nov 07 2017 12:16am

Hi,

Can you confirm, Is 37V the nominal voaltage? From what you have said that makes the pack 42V when fully charged?

Do you have 8 modules available?

I know you said there is no air freight for these. Are you able to provide surface freight to Australia?

If so how much for 8 modules?

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Post by Monstarr » Nov 07 2017 4:44am

galderdi wrote:Hi,

Can you confirm, Is 37V the nominal voaltage? From what you have said that makes the pack 42V when fully charged?

Do you have 8 modules available?

I know you said there is no air freight for these. Are you able to provide surface freight to Australia?

If so how much for 8 modules?
Hey,
Thanks for your interest. Unfortunately no shipping possibility outside EU. I am sorry.
FYI, li-ion NMC cell -> fully charged around 4.2 Volt. But main discharge takes place around 3.7-3.8 Volt. That way the refer to the nominal voltage for calculating batterypack sizes. As this module is 10 series that means nominal voltage around 37 Volt. A 48 Volt li-ion batterypack for example is 13 S which is 13x3.7/3.8 = 48.1-49.4-ish Volt.

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Post by Monstarr » Nov 10 2017 9:04am

All modules gone.

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Post by Monstarr » Nov 27 2017 9:40am

1 module left!

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Post by Monstarr » Apr 11 2018 6:35am

Got some new 10S modules in.

:arrow: Productiondate LG Chem: 2015.
:arrow: Car mileage: 60 k km. Volvo V60 PHEV. So in it's 2.5 years it mostly had highway usuage. Most likely low burdening on electric hybrid system. So cells should be good for 95% capacitity at least.
For my own application they perform excellent still after more than 2 years of nearly daily usuage.

Same conditions apply as before. Lowest Wh price for similar quality cells on ES.

Please send me a PM if interested. Ask here if you have questions.

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Post by TilmanBaumann » Jul 05 2018 6:36am

Oh man, this would totally safe my VRone scooter battery rebuild which is currently estimated to cost around 3k€ for 20 SLPB100216216H Kokam cells.
I'd lose some energy density. From 40Ah to 30Ah, but that is just fine for that price. :D

I just hope I get lucky and Monstarr got some left.

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Post by Monstarr » Jul 07 2018 9:33am

TilmanBaumann wrote:
Jul 05 2018 6:36am
Oh man, this would totally safe my VRone scooter battery rebuild which is currently estimated to cost around 3k€ for 20 SLPB100216216H Kokam cells.
I'd lose some energy density. From 40Ah to 30Ah, but that is just fine for that price. :D

I just hope I get lucky and Monstarr got some left.
I am all out at the moment unfortunately.

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Post by Monstarr » Aug 03 2018 1:24pm

I have two sets of 2 modules available. The project which i have used these in for a couple of months is now dismantled because I wasnt very pleased with the weight distribution of the modules in the scooter frame. I did not put them in the original position so it lead to bad road handling unfortunately.
I used 2 modules in series with another similar pack in parallel.

Plan is to rebuild the original 18650 (440 cell) battery for an increased energy density pack which i can mount better and lower. I dont need the power which these modules can produce & I dont have any use for these modules for the foreseeable future so they take up valuable space in my shed.

So I will sell these per two, 275 eur per pack. The 20s modules come assembled with the balancing wires included. +-1 meter leadcables with protection mantle.
Cells did not see a lot of cycles - possibly around 30-40 shallow cycles - 90 -> 50% in my useage. Saw something around 15-20 k km in the Volvo V60 they came out off.

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Post by Gigawatts » Aug 03 2018 11:03pm

Man, sucks these are not available in the US. I’ve been trying to figure out an easy 20s pack from used ev modules. These are perfect and a great deal!

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Post by Monstarr » Aug 04 2018 6:57am

Gigawatts wrote:
Aug 03 2018 11:03pm
Man, sucks these are not available in the US. I’ve been trying to figure out an easy 20s pack from used ev modules. These are perfect and a great deal!
Sorry to hear.
Follow Jehu Garcia (jehugarcia) on Youtube. He is from the USA and posts leads to good batteries regularly.

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