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Hi All,
I'm new to the forum, and I am considering my first electric bike build.
I would like to electrify a Madsen cargo bike that my wife and I own. It has a 26" disc brake wheel in the front and a 20" v-brake wheel with a derailleur in the rear.
We use our bike primarily to take our three kids to the park and to run errands.
I would guess that the longest trip we’ve made was about 8 miles round trip.
However, my kids are getting heavier, and it would be nice to extend our range a bit, so that we could go 10-20 miles round trip at somewhere around 15-20 mph. Thus our interest in adding an electric motor.
Here are the constraints involved with this project. I weigh about 215 lbs., my 3 kids, together, weigh about 130 lbs. We live in Portland, Oregon. Most of the biking we do is relatively flat, but there are some hills down to the river, and then up and over the bridges here. They are moderately steep, and moderately long. My CFO is telling me that I have $500-700 to spend on this project.
I have done a lot of reading on this forum regarding direct drive hubs, mid-drive hubs, and geared hubs. I would like to use a geared motor of some type so that we can use the bike without electric assist when necessary.
At first I was interested in a Bafang mid-drive kit, but I need a system that is foolproof, and it seems that proper gear shifting is rather finicky with that system. So, now I am considering either a Bafang BPM2 500W 36 or 48V system.
So, my first question is, will the motor be powerful enough? Keep in mind that we are used to pedaling without a motor. Related to that question, is do we need 48v, or is 36v enough?
Secondly, which would be better, a front hub system or a rear? I have seen several other people use a 500w hub on the front of this bike, and I haven’t read about any issues with it. The bike has a steel fork, and I could add torque arms.
The rear wheel drive sounds safer, since the frame can handle more torque than the forks. However, from what I have read, I would need to buy a 7 speed freewheel in order to fit within the 135mm dropouts (because of the bucket I would imagine it would be hard to spread the dropouts). Would I also need to change out my derailleur, since it is indexed? It is a SRAM X5 8 speed.
Thank you for any guidance or input you can give me!
John
I'm new to the forum, and I am considering my first electric bike build.
I would like to electrify a Madsen cargo bike that my wife and I own. It has a 26" disc brake wheel in the front and a 20" v-brake wheel with a derailleur in the rear.
We use our bike primarily to take our three kids to the park and to run errands.
I would guess that the longest trip we’ve made was about 8 miles round trip.
However, my kids are getting heavier, and it would be nice to extend our range a bit, so that we could go 10-20 miles round trip at somewhere around 15-20 mph. Thus our interest in adding an electric motor.
Here are the constraints involved with this project. I weigh about 215 lbs., my 3 kids, together, weigh about 130 lbs. We live in Portland, Oregon. Most of the biking we do is relatively flat, but there are some hills down to the river, and then up and over the bridges here. They are moderately steep, and moderately long. My CFO is telling me that I have $500-700 to spend on this project.
I have done a lot of reading on this forum regarding direct drive hubs, mid-drive hubs, and geared hubs. I would like to use a geared motor of some type so that we can use the bike without electric assist when necessary.
At first I was interested in a Bafang mid-drive kit, but I need a system that is foolproof, and it seems that proper gear shifting is rather finicky with that system. So, now I am considering either a Bafang BPM2 500W 36 or 48V system.
So, my first question is, will the motor be powerful enough? Keep in mind that we are used to pedaling without a motor. Related to that question, is do we need 48v, or is 36v enough?
Secondly, which would be better, a front hub system or a rear? I have seen several other people use a 500w hub on the front of this bike, and I haven’t read about any issues with it. The bike has a steel fork, and I could add torque arms.
The rear wheel drive sounds safer, since the frame can handle more torque than the forks. However, from what I have read, I would need to buy a 7 speed freewheel in order to fit within the 135mm dropouts (because of the bucket I would imagine it would be hard to spread the dropouts). Would I also need to change out my derailleur, since it is indexed? It is a SRAM X5 8 speed.
Thank you for any guidance or input you can give me!
John