cal3thousand said:
Bulk charging bare lipos can be safer than bulk charging with a BMS. Without BMS, the human is expected to be the charge monitor and I trust myself much more than I trust a BMS. (I use cell monitors and charge from 3.3V to 4.0 VPC as part of my comprehensive cell longevity and safety plan and don't charge unattended). Balance charging every time is certainly not necessary, especially if you care for and vet your Lipos properly when building (cycling and eliminating outliers). I have only had to balance my lipos ("had to" is rather strong language since it was still much below 50mV delta) 2 times in as many years.
We clearly have different definitions of balance charging and bulk charging. When I say "bulk charging bare lipos" I mean charging cells in series without monitoring individual cell voltages, thus the "bare". When I say "balance charging" I mean charging cells in series and monitoring each individual cell. In balance charging, cells are either charged or discharged to make them equal the voltage of the other series cells. Additionally, and most importantly, if a cell goes over a certain voltage the charging is stopped.
What you describe above (you manually monitoring the cells) is for all intents and purposes, balance charging. Even more so with well matched cells that don't drift in voltage.... until they do.
The problem is that to do due diligence with your method is extremely inconvenient. So much so, that even the best of us will eventually "trust" our pack to not go out of balance during charge and we'll hook the pack up to the bulk 2C charger and let it do it's thing. Eventually, this will lead to a fire.
You don't trust a BMS to do it, but durn it I don't trust me to do it! BMS's don't get lazy and if I want I can verify that it's working by manually checking cell voltages. Plus you are probably using a cheap chinese cell monitor to check your batteries... you trust that $8.00 gadget to accurately display the voltage but not a quality BMS?
I've had LiPo fires due to bulk charging. I've learned my lesson. Since swapping over to ONLY balance charging or using a BMS I've never had any issues.
To the OP:
Back many years ago when the idea of balance charging first propagated through the RC community, your question of connecting imbalanced cells in parallel came up many (many) times. Many tests were run, many experiments made. The result of all of that was that small differentials in cell voltages do not produce enough current to do damage to the low, or high cells. My rule of thumb is 0.1V/cell difference is ok. If it's more than that, then you need to think about there being something wrong with the low pack.
For your application, you probably will never have any problem balance charging as you describe since your packs should be uniformly discharged. For RC folks who use packs seperately then charge together (unlike what we do on a bike) they end up with packs at different voltages regularly. Even in extreme circumstances, it's surprisingly not a big deal. The concept in the video has been proven true for a good 8-9 years now in the RC community.
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-Jim