tinasdude
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Biktrix version is 15 amp and advertized as 80n.m. of torque.
tinasdude said:Biktrix version is 15 amp and advertized as 80n.m. of torque.
eyebyesickle said:honestly I was up tonight trying to work with them so they can offer a 750w 'American version' with the metal gear inside, with headlight wire, etc... they are scared people will complain from the noise... mentioned me handling support... dunno, I don't think so
either way, just wait a bit, your hearing it first on ES - the 750w version is about to hit... :lol:
eyebyesickle said:tinasdude said:Biktrix version is 15 amp and advertized as 80n.m. of torque.
oh... my bad I misunderstood.
I will be able to point you in the right direction soon, but first they are selling out their old stock, before they make real 'power model' versions.
these 48v18a have 90nm... I don't think they have the full 100nm.... and also cutoff at 54.6 =\...
I don't think anyone can get you these until this company makes the next batch.
you can't get that type of thing single unit from the factory, they are afraid to provide support for the unit like that, hence the MOQ order they require =\
ScooterMan101 said:This is a step in the Right Direction, at least 750 watts, throttle option, and double chainring option,
Add to that the fact that most good bikes being sold in the stores these days are 10 and 11 speed bikes.
there are some 9 speed ones still available, but 8 speed is being phased out , and soon there will be 12 speed cassettes with very wide gear ratio's .
It is very important that they make several ( Optional ) chainrings in 10 speed spacing ( Note with a 10 speed front chainring you can use a 9 speed chain and 9 speed rear cassette, or 10 speed ) ,
10 and 11 Chainrings are also very important because , it you want to go larger than a 34 tooth in the rear, you will need a 10 or 11 speed chain / speed system.
Many of us are considering a Mid-Drive because we want to climb up hills/mountains,
With a 10 or 11 speed front chainring I could get a cassette with 36-40 tooth at the rear for climbing.
and there is even a 50 tooth available for 11 speed systems. Just think of the Mountains you can go up once you can get this little Mid-Drive with that tooth count in the rear.
For the American Market have them include choice of 10 or 11 speed chainrings in tooth counts of 46, 48, 50, 52 .
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A double chainring version with tooth counts in the 30's on the inner and to 52 on the outer chainring.
You are right, Most of the good stuff is made for 10 and 11 speed bikes. There are now better cassette options for 8 and 9 speed bikes. 11-40 is available for both of them. 8 speed allows for the most robust chain available. After that they start getting slightly skinnier. Most cheap cassettes are made of steel, which wears better on an electric bike. Freewheels however do not come so tall. The sunrace 13-34 megadrive is a very useful 8 speed freewheel. The the first and second gear progression is not has harsh as the popular Shimano Mega. Since the 11T wears quickly, and consequently wears your chain as well, I think the sunrace is a good choice for those with a freewheel.
I THINK THE INCREASE IN AMPS TO 18 IS WHERE THERE INCREASE TORQUE NUMBERS COME FROM. AMPS = TORQUE. THE 60V VERSION ACCOUNTS FOR THE INCREASE IN RPMS .VOLTS = SPEED. SO A 48V 18A MOTOR WLL HAVE THE INCREASED TORQUE, NOT THE HIGHER RPMSanttipaa said:eyebyesickle said:tinasdude said:Biktrix version is 15 amp and advertized as 80n.m. of torque.
oh... my bad I misunderstood.
I will be able to point you in the right direction soon, but first they are selling out their old stock, before they make real 'power model' versions.
these 48v18a have 90nm... I don't think they have the full 100nm.... and also cutoff at 54.6 =\...
I don't think anyone can get you these until this company makes the next batch.
you can't get that type of thing single unit from the factory, they are afraid to provide support for the unit like that, hence the MOQ order they require =\
So no one is selling 14s 58.8v version? That is what I have tried to find. Does it matter is it 15a or 18a? Thats only 3a difference. Does it fit to 68mm BB and 73mm BB? Conhismotor sayd their version fits only 68-72mm not 73mm?? Eyebyesickle when do you think we can buy that new version? Im ok for little waiting. I allready ordered metal gear and 120mm FatBike kit from Futurebikes.
ScooterMan101 said:This is a step in the Right Direction, at least 750 watts, throttle option, and double chainring option,
ScooterMan101 said:Add to that the fact that most good bikes being sold in the stores these days are 10 and 11 speed bikes. there are some 9 speed ones still available, but 8 speed is being phased out , and soon there will be 12 speed cassettes with very wide gear ratio's .
ScooterMan101 said:It is very important that they make several ( Optional ) chainrings in 10 speed spacing ( Note with a 10 speed front chainring you can use a 9 speed chain and 9 speed rear cassette, or 10 speed )
ScooterMan101 said:Many of us are considering a Mid-Drive because we want to climb up hills/mountains
ScooterMan101 said:With a 10 or 11 speed front chainring I could get a cassette with 36-40 tooth at the rear for climbing. and there is even a 50 tooth available for 11 speed systems. Just think of the Mountains you can go up once you can get this little Mid-Drive with that tooth count in the rear.
tinasdude said:Is the chain line any better with the TSDZ2 than the BBSO2? I recently bought a very old DH bike, to gain the full suspension. Standard 135mm rear dropout. 8 speed 11-32 cassette came with It. This was to be an easy trails and forest roads type bike. Ordered 104 BCD adapter and a 32 race face chain ring, before ever mounting the motor. OMG. Bizarre chain line. Rebuilt the cassette into a 5 speed. Moved the 11, 13, and 15 behind the tallest gears as place holders. So now the 32T was in the 4th gear positon, and had an acceptable chain line. I am hoping the TSDZ2, at minimum, is slightly better. I see a lot of mention of using a 52 gear with this motor. Is there any concern that you will initially not be running enough rpm in this gear, and causing an overheating issue? This type of issue was experience with the BBSO2 prior to replacing the FETS. Sorry about the rambling.
tinasdude said:I have the same issue. I already have 52v batterys. Dont want to invest in 48v. Have several 14S2p 30Q and a 14S4P dolphin. Really woul like to see the TSDZ2 52V. Keep the Nylon gear. I won't be pushing it hard anyway. Have a BBSHD for speed and power. A 52v 15 amp may not be that bad.
eyebyesickle said:It actually irritates you?... Thicken up that skin.
Some of whats you are saying makes sense... but you are telling people to do some research, then to just get out and ride... Which in itself is contradictory, not to mention, it sounds like you have not tried a stronger model yourself... Some issues are already being addressed.... People do learn, moving forward.
To each their own, no reason to slam others. Calm down there buddy, hahaha no stress over a few watts
tinasdude said:Have done my research. This a light weight, inexpensive, torque sensing mid drive. it will be an off road pleasure ride for an old man on a FS bike. I have no illusions of speed with this motor. I want to check out the bionic leg feeling of torque sensing, and this is a good price point to try it. I have a ludicrous BBSHD for power and speed. if I want to go fast I will get an ERT 72V kit for the BBSHD and go 50 mph. It is all about torque sensing, not speed. PAS is crap. Does not feel natural. A lot of controller fine tuning to get it close to natural feeling. And then all it is, close, and nothing more. A 52V 17 amp torque sensing motor is 999 watts. That is plenty for an easy single track and trails bike. just ordered 52v 17 amp motor. As much as my BBSHD fat bike makes me smile, I think a torque sensing bike with 7" of FS will make me smile even more. Not getting a throttle, so it will give me a better work out. Too easy to cheat on throttle with the BBSHD. I think more people are getting this motor for the right reasons than you realise. They aren't posting much?
When I receive it and confirm that it is 52v, I will share. I don not want to spread false hope. lol. I don't care if its 15A as long as I can use my 52V battery.leelorr said:Tinasdude,
Where did you order your 17A, 52 volt version?
Thanks,
Leelorr
Tried to PM you. Got a message you don't exist. Check your pulse. lolleelorr said:Tinasdude,
Where did you order your 17A, 52 volt version?
Thanks,
Leelorr