jonescg said:
So Mike, what do you propose South Australia do to resolve their energy issues?
In 25 words or less, explain the solution. This is your safe space - say what you like. Go!
There is no solution in 25 words, well maybe,
the short answer is just modern ultra-supercritical coal then gen4 nuclear, but it needs to be rationalized to the general public and be accepted.
The only way to resolve it is to fix the voters and what they know about energy, or else it will all just run around in circles forever, probably powered by the most easily absorbable Facebook memes. At the core of it is bad information via easily absorbable media. It's an "armchair general" situation where the voters are ultimately creating energy policy by the most easily absorbable idea which doesn't mean it's the best idea, and installing leaders who promise to carry out their wishes.
South Australia's actions have proven, that the very last thing in the world they understand, is that their increased living standards/lifestyle has come from the availability of cheap energy. The proof is because they have worked sell hard to remove it while at the same time believing the claim its some how magically going to get cheaper.
A lot of people would argue this basic lack of knowledge means they lack the core understanding of the industrial revolution.
Well, I have thought about why folks in Australia think the way they do and I mostly blame the ABC as its deliberately manipulative as well as lacking any opposing points of view, in fact the more you're willing to preach extreme green leftist ideas the more likely you are to be promoted with a better salary inside the ABC.
Everyone loves the ABC because there is no cheesy as fk advertisements between every little bit of information they give out.
Look at the stuff they pound folks with https://youtu.be/hTkBg7JJBo0 they are just so used to having all this power that they abuse it to the point now where its clearly destructive.
If people want to practise Sharia Law in the privacy of they own homes I don't think I really care or think about it but electricity affects everyone, its not something being "practised in their own homes" even though it could be the case with solar/powerwalls etc, its too expensive to go off grid so people vote governments in like SA's Jay Weatherill to make everyone pay for it, willing or otherwise brute forcing green energy via the grid and cause massive job losses to the ironic point that even green recycling companies that recycle plastics have to shut down because they can't afford the sudden spike of a $1.2million dollar power yearly bill increase ($100k extra per month).
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/jobs/recycling-firm-to-shut-35-jobs-lost-as-sa-government-ignores-plea-for-help-over-soaring-power-bills/news-story/d24d29ce9ba072d5adbc4d47ab06f4b9
Obviously, facts delivered via Wikipedia / https://www.eia.gov/ official generation stats on renewables etc are not acceptable or looked at by Aussies in general. The reason is that people have grown up on TV or Facebook memes to have all the information presented in their laps in an easily absorbable format, nothing else is acceptable.
When I talk to people and tell them that a 25km2 solar farm generates less than 1 tenth of the average power output of Hazelwood they are completely stunned with how crap that is, it's so far from what they assumed, why is that? Obviously, because people are being stuffed with complete baloney information.
People being stuffed with strictly one-sided baloney information from the ABC is a claim a lot of people in the media industry point out like Mark Latham.
This is why he created his "Outsiders" "tv show" which puts out ideas and thoughts that are pretty much the exact opposite of what the ABC would put out, its strictly on youtube only and probably wouldn't be allowed on FTA. The ABC won't allow a single conservative or some kind of person from a right wing spectrum to have his own show on our billion dollar tax payer funded TV station, its perfect for injection of ultra baloney information.
A true miracle would have to happen to allow such a show on the ABC to go on say after the 7:30 report, and is probably a quasi-remote dream of Mark Latham to have.
That's why his show is called "Outsiders" because it's the opposite of ABC's "Insiders". http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/
I can even be driving down the road and listening to ABC news on the radio and they will say something along the lines of "this just in breaking news, solar is is cheaper than coal" or something of that nature, they just repeat this kind of crap like they are campaigning for the Greens party.
I have been forming a dream where all TV in Australia would just be on the internet only so people could easily flick between ABC's 7:30 report and a show like Mark Latham's Outsiders, just like changing traditional TV channels, because the setup we have now is just evil and actually destructive to Australians well being, I used to see it as harmless free campaigning for the left but it's clear with SA like it is, Australia's ABC has moved beyond that.
Dick Smith has some great thoughts on housing and energy in Australia on Mark Latham's show so go check it out
https://youtu.be/paVr09UERRQ?t=17m10s
You don't have to watch the whole show but it wouldn't hurt, there's no reason to actually visually watch it as you can just listen to it while on the train/car etc like so many youtube videos its just people talking. https://www.marklathamsoutsiders.com/markshows
When my cable internet dropped out a few days ago I plugged my Samsung phone into my PC and did a speed test got over 200mbps (30GB plan with unlimted use of Netflix etc) http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6465144604.png
http://www.optus.com.au/shop/entertainment/tv-movies/mobile-tv-streaming
The thing I think about is that the ABC TV sits on the best spectrum for 4G, I would rather see all TV spectrum go new mobile carriers then be injected with this highly manipulative ABC news garbage they put out. The TV 600MHz spectrum is long range high penetration spectrum if we kicked off these parasite TV stations that practically don't pay anything for it, we could have the equivalent 10 Telstra's wireless providers with little investment. 5G is coming in a few years which uses a completely different spectrum but will require more towers so it will take longer to roll out. But I want to see traditional TV die as its just plan evil, worse than sugar in everyone's diets. You don't have to tell me that I would be viciously hated by most Australians on my kill traditional TV ideas.
I still am supportive of the idea of the government prop up local media creation just not via the traditional broadcast methods used now, all media needs to be equally reachable as Wikipedia etc is.
This is one of the reasons why the local news papers are dying, while tax payers prop up all TV media by the billions and give them the spectrum for free there is fewer people reading news papers or visiting the papers' websites which increasingly have more video media for easy absorption anyway, these are becoming more informative internet TV stations, essentially.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-05/fairfax-media-announces-further-job-losses-amid-$30m-budget-cut/8419584
I am only supportive of nuclear just to put the whole co2 argument to bed and move on, I am equally happy with ultra-supercritical coal generation (clean coal) if people are OK with co2 emissions from gas then there is no reason why they should be anti co2 from ultra-supercritical coal generation.
https://theconversation.com/is-clean-coal-power-the-answer-to-australias-emissions-targets-71785
With the money saved from not using wind and solar we could start a government fund to eventually move to a gen 4 nuclear power stations like the Bill Gate's Terrapower reactor to keep those who hate co2 emissions happy.
Really so much of Australia's economy comes from coal exports that the true madness of South Australia's ambitions hasn't even begun to be realized, only an electricity bill 10 times more expensive than now could probably help inject that reality.
We have one coal power station that was designed to be more efficient built in 2004 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kogan_Creek_Power_Station
Kogan Creek power-station has only one turbine unit but a big one capable of up to 750MW.
While Hazelwood had 8 individual 200MW units https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_Power_Station
Everyone I have spoken to about Hazelwood's shut down spits out the same baloney story ABC news put out that the reason why it was shut down was that the plant was getting too old to run or crap reasons of that nature.
It's no coincidence that Hazelwood shut down almost exactly 1 year after the state government tripled the cost of royalties to mine coal to power the station. The state government was at the time so disconnected from reality and cheeky enough give a rant about how the power-station better think twice about passing on the increased cost to retail buyers.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorias-own-mining-tax-to-triple-as-treasurer-gouges-brown-coal-for-revenue-20160422-gocymk.html
But I hate being the only person to know points of view other than ABCs.
Australia reducing its emissions is really just symbolic, at least at the moment, everyone breathing in the world puts out 18 times the amount of co2 each year than all of Australia's coal electricity power-stations each year as I have explained in details factual data breakdowns in posts of the past.
If it's going to make people happy that we reduce co2, then I am for it but I think via renewables like wind and solar are the dumbest ways possible. The numbers seem clear to me, people taking facts from the ABC and Getups Facebook meme videos has brought South Australia to where they are.
South Australia is even pushing up my power bills because they are sucking the hell out of the remaining two coal electricity generators left in Victoria via the interstate grid connector, just to pretend they're all clean and green.
No one has died from Fukushima radiation, as stated by the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation,
everyone should know that or God help us all (or fix the media)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_by_death_toll#Fukushima_disaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Scientific_Committee_on_the_Effects_of_Atomic_Radiation
But how do you over come the media with bad information about nuclear? You can't keep them on traditional TV broadcast media where they sit like kings injecting garbage for more money and power.
This is my favorite video for forcibly injecting the realities of nuclear radiation into peoples minds, ironically its just that, literal injection of radioactive material into the bloodstream.
When people see videos like this they start asking questions and they start learning for them selves via the internet, something you just can't do on traditional tv media and something traditional tv media just don't want you to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ItOIz5gJiQ
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Ideally, folks in the future could watch ABC 7:30 report and be told about a currently 8year old boy on the border of Poland suffers heart and kidney problems and indirectly and unfairly link it to the Chernobyl disaster of 31 years ago, a disaster that is located on the other side of Ukraine. Then easily chose to next watch the Mark Latham Outsiders show and watch something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRL7o2kPqw0
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) per year. Wind has seen similar numbers. So I don't think there will be any trouble replacing Liddell's power contribution over the next 5 years, but being able to utilise that power with storage will be the key.
Isnt that exactly what Snowy 2.0 is intended for..Hydro storage using the surplus Solar and wind power during daytime, then using it for buffering the peak loads...?
