Santa'sLittleHelper said:
I have a couple items I need clarified about the TSDZ2 as opposed to the BBS02. First is the “actual” torque sensor operation.
Mscoot – How much of a difference is there between your Bafang and your TSDZ2 with regard to applying more power when you pedal harder. It seems others aren’t feeling anything different other than the quicker on/off of the torque sensor other the simple Bafang method. A quick power shutoff when you stop pedaling in and of itself sounds great to me and probably would eliminate brake power cutoff wires for the way I ride.
Also, have you got use to the noise? And/or found a way to get it as quiet as a Bafang?
The last concern is "drag" when pedaling without power. IMHO the Bafang has substantial drag, especially after running it, so maybe heat plays a roll there (?). My Bafang felt like I was dragging massive magnets when I'd run the battery dry and tried to pedal it hot.
One of the posters mentioned the major drag issue for the TSDZ2 has as well. He thought it might be somewhat related to a large O-ring, but I'm guessing it is something else. What is your personal experience with drag when pedaling this mid-drive without power?
The Bafung and TDSZ2 are very different in their approach to torque sensing, one has zero sensing other than are you turning your pedals and the other a moderate amount of crude sensing which sort of replicates your input but only to a degree. The TDSZ2 system is good enough for the price you pay for it and is a far superior method if you want to feel like you are riding a bike rather than an electric powered bike AKA small moped. I really don't get how you can not feel a degree of sensing in it other than wonder if those complaining of little sensing are perhaps turning it on with a foot on one of the pedals, remember it recalibrates the sensor every time its turned on and if you are straining the guage at turn on then you will be getting a weird setup.
Noise, the Bafung is the quieter of the two by far but is it horrendous, no its relatively quiet and very acceptable if you take into the fact that you have gears and motors and such like all operating within a pretty confined casting. Basically accept that its noisier than your bike but its not going to irritate you.
If you are going to complain about it being difficult to cycle without the battery on, just accept that you will only have to if the motor or battery fails or go and buy a conventional bike for those moments you want to a be purist.