Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by MoonBassMan » Sep 19, 2017 8:54 am

Allex wrote:I can receive your funds and then forward the money to the factory. It is probably easier for them to receive one amount instead for several from different people.
As for the shipping, I am checking out the dimensions and weight of the crate, will get back to you about the price.
I seem to be one of the few on the list looking for shipping to the US. Can it be done?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by BCTECH » Sep 19, 2017 9:49 am

MoonBassMan wrote:
Allex wrote:I can receive your funds and then forward the money to the factory. It is probably easier for them to receive one amount instead for several from different people.
As for the shipping, I am checking out the dimensions and weight of the crate, will get back to you about the price.
I seem to be one of the few on the list looking for shipping to the US. Can it be done?
I would also like to know the shipping cost to US

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by SlowCo » Sep 19, 2017 1:48 pm

@ MoonBassMan and BCTECH, wouldn't it be cheaper to order directly from Sur-Ron and only pay shipping once? Maybe even start a US group buy yourselves?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by eyebyesickle » Sep 19, 2017 4:47 pm

I'm headed back to the warehouse in Nashville here in a week or so.

Hvnt been stressing the timeline, because I don't like to rush these things... But was considering a US group buy, I already have half a dozen locals interested...

BUT, if there is a weak link in the initial components or something otherwise, could be a major bust..

If they live up to the hype, and we miss the first load... It's gonna be a wait in line...

Hate to have something this big hang over the organizers head, but I was considering.... Just talking. If there wasnt enough interest in the US ready to pull the trigger, wouldn't be worth the trouble though...

Just talking...

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by motomoto » Sep 20, 2017 12:39 am

I paid for a bike a couple of weeks ago with the factory. I should have it in a couple of weeks air shipped to northern California. If the sample bike meets my standards, I am going to do a crowdfunding campaign
to pay for a 40 foot container sent to the states with 120 bikes. I have been negotiating with the factory on the price for the 120 bikes. I am not trying to make money on this shipment of bikes but am interested
in supplying hop-ups, parts, service, racing setups etc. in the future.

I started a Facebook page called Motomoto as well as a Motomoto group page to discuss the Sur-Ron bike and how we can make it better.

These guys did a fantastic job designing the bike in 5 months. Here is the story. Just right click the page and click on translate to English.

http://www.newmotor.com.cn/html/epc/84110.html

I recognize excellence in style, design, and engineering and I think this bike has it all. Yes, it is not a Matt Shumaker rocket bike, but maybe it could be.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by scrambler » Sep 20, 2017 11:25 am

@motomoto, you should ask them if they have any plan to get it homologated as a moped (or small motorcycle) in Europe and in the US.

If not, you should suggest it, as it would make a big difference in market potential.

I would also suggest that they consider making a Pedal assist version of the bike. If feasible, it would probably triple the potential market for it, and would create a healthy, more affordable, alternative to the Excellent Neematic https://www.neematic.com/.

When you get the bike, I would be interested into a lot of close up pictures to see the way the motor is integrated into the frame, and to find out if such a conversion could be possible.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by MoonBassMan » Sep 20, 2017 12:28 pm

SlowCo wrote:@ MoonBassMan and BCTECH, wouldn't it be cheaper to order directly from Sur-Ron and only pay shipping once? Maybe even start a US group buy yourselves?
Yes that is what I am trying to figure out. If there is a US group buy, I am in.


To motomoto,
Please post picture/video/review!
I'm interested in one from your crate. Do you have a post I can follow?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by BCTECH » Sep 20, 2017 1:23 pm

motomoto wrote:I paid for a bike a couple of weeks ago with the factory. I should have it in a couple of weeks air shipped to northern California. If the sample bike meets my standards, I am going to do a crowdfunding campaign
to pay for a 40 foot container sent to the states with 120 bikes. I have been negotiating with the factory on the price for the 120 bikes. I am not trying to make money on this shipment of bikes but am interested
in supplying hop-ups, parts, service, racing setups etc. in the future.

I started a Facebook page called Motomoto as well as a Motomoto group page to discuss the Sur-Ron bike and how we can make it better.

These guys did a fantastic job designing the bike in 5 months. Here is the story. Just right click the page and click on translate to English.

http://www.newmotor.com.cn/html/epc/84110.html

I recognize excellence in style, design, and engineering and I think this bike has it all. Yes, it is not a Matt Shumaker rocket bike, but maybe it could be.
for your sample order, is it too late to add a few more bikes shipping to US at the same time? assuming MoonBassMan or few others are interested ?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by motomoto » Sep 20, 2017 6:48 pm

I would have to cancel the order for the one and start a whole new order. It was quite an ordeal to complete the order with the factory.

I sense they are trying to finish a few sample bikes that are already paid for.

I really don't want to forfeit my place in line. It could make the order months from now. Sorry.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by MoonBassMan » Sep 21, 2017 10:06 am

motomoto wrote:I would have to cancel the order for the one and start a whole new order. It was quite an ordeal to complete the order with the factory.

I sense they are trying to finish a few sample bikes that are already paid for.

I really don't want to forfeit my place in line. It could make the order months from now. Sorry.
Understandable. Is there a place I can follow up on US group buys in the future? Feel like I missed out because I don't know where to look.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by SlowCo » Sep 21, 2017 10:59 am

MoonBassMan wrote:Is there a place I can follow up on US group buys in the future? Feel like I missed out because I don't know where to look.
What about typing 'Sur-Ron' into the search box here on E-S? :roll:
That way you would have found:
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... &p=1321173

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by scrambler » Sep 21, 2017 12:02 pm

MoonBassMan wrote:
Understandable. Is there a place I can follow up on US group buys in the future? Feel like I missed out because I don't know where to look.
If you read the above posts, you have no missed anything out. There is no group buy finalized in the US yet.

Read all posts in the original thread here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 28&t=89902

The Europe group buy is lead by Allex here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... 31&t=90196

Australia group buy is lead by Hyena here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... &p=1319381

Motomoto is considering doing one in the US here: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewt ... &p=1321173

Many of these people have ordered a sample, and it is a good idea top wait until one of them arrives on this side of the ocean, so you can find out if everything lives to its promises :)

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by Allex » Sep 22, 2017 1:42 pm

Ok, got preliminary ship quote within EU wich is 215USD

So this gives us price:
Bike: 2350USD
Charger: 70USD
Shipping to Sweden: 720USD
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Above: 3140USD

VAT+Customs: 942USD

Shipping further: 215USD (Shipping to US is like 550USD)

Total: $4297 preliminary.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by scrambler » Sep 23, 2017 2:11 pm

That is getting closer to the LMX homologated version
http://www.lmxbikes.com/en/full-lmx-bik ... eride.html

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by zzoing » Sep 25, 2017 5:18 am

better get a sample then before you order 20,000 euros of them. check the finish. otherwise get some chinese market reviews for it at the least. I'm guessing you should ship it to Rotterdam or le Havre, so we can meet up in holland and scare the locals wearing leather.

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Post by zzoing » Sep 25, 2017 5:20 am

erm, scary wearing not that kind of leather, i mean, motorbike leather.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by Allex » Sep 26, 2017 6:06 am

Ok guys, I will place my order this week. If some1 is still interested just PM about payment.

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Post by Aebrennan » Oct 04, 2017 5:52 am

Have you placed your order?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by Allex » Oct 04, 2017 5:54 am

Yes, not payed yet.

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Post by Aebrennan » Oct 04, 2017 5:57 am

How many bikes?
When are you planning to make the transfer?

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by Allex » Oct 04, 2017 8:57 am

4, some day next week, they are on Holidays atm.

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by Artur » Oct 05, 2017 6:02 am

We can do it with my help? I can test it in China and also I can import them to Germany (19% vat) and send to Europe for about 200euro per bike (price with wooden box, to door delivery)

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by dave.a » Oct 05, 2017 4:38 pm

Could you please add me to the group buy.
Dirt version, 60v, 10a charger, shipped to the uk.
Thankyou, David

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Re: Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike group buy EU

Post by gary » Oct 07, 2017 2:09 am

put me down for a 60v to Netherlands please :mrgreen:

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