FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by leelorr » May 24 2018 6:12pm

I like your idea a lot, but I do want to point out that with TWO of the smaller batteries, the bike stays stealthy even on a long ride because you can carry the second battery somewhere other than on the frame, and just swap the batteries when you need to. I guess with your idea an owner could decide whether to buy two of the smaller batteries, or one small battery AND the larger battery. Choices, I like it!

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Post by romagjack » May 26 2018 11:51am

I'd like something like this with a rohloff and throttle!

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Post by romagjack » May 29 2018 2:15pm

The Enviolo sportive IGH would also be great and more affordable for an M600.

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Post by FREYebikes » Jun 14 2018 3:52am

Good news to all who focus on our M500/600 new model.
We have developed out and testing sample bike now. it performs well as expect, easy to drive and operate when riding outdoor.
A shorter chain stay, and shorter head tube with a specal design shape integrated with frame body shape. No cable go outside.
With torque sensor PAS and throttle available for both M500/600 system.
The whole bike weight is 25.7KGS. this sample bike is M size.
Following some photos for you have a look.
Detailed specs and price will come out in coming week. and we will start to arrange production for this model very soon.
Welcome any of your question, advice and inquiry by email to me: sales@frey.bike
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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by Drum » Jun 14 2018 4:22am

Looks great! Would love to take one for a test ride, and will be very interested to see the final specifications.

Just make sure the battery is really well supported and locked into position.. if the bike is as capable as it should be with that geometry and those components, it will be ridden hard and the forces on the battery will be very large.

Good luck with it!
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Post by trooper5707 » Jun 14 2018 7:21am

Wow! That is gorgeous!
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Post by leelorr » Jun 14 2018 10:38am

Beautiful bike!
Will it be available in the aluminum finish as in the photo?

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Post by starky_boi » Jun 15 2018 3:39am

leelorr wrote:
Jun 14 2018 10:38am
Beautiful bike!
Will it be available in the aluminum finish as in the photo?
Would love to know that too !
Raw polished / varnished aluminum is really appealing :)

Looks great overall ! Love the new handlebar grips, and the new motor display/controller !
Looking forward for a better battery integration, I personally don't mind the "Hailong" battery type if it's well integrated and if it means easy maintenance or modification of the pack.
Is it just me or the saddle stem and handlebar stem always seem quite high on Frey bikes ? At least on demo models...

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by harald » Jun 15 2018 4:03am

Are @Frey considering a FAT-version of this? 26x4 Jumbo Jims. I like that you are trying to find a balanced model between features/quality and price.

I very much like the Hailong-package because it's almost a standard. I can go to the local buy-everything store and get a battery-pack over the counter. As a side-note, someone should start selling the mounting brackets for Hailong-packs.

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Post by 18650 » Jun 15 2018 11:08am

@ Frey, according to Bafang, the M600 system has the DP C230.CAN display?

http://www.bafang-e.com/en/components/c ... 30can.html
I think the C230 would look nicer than the one on your prototype bike.

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Post by dalysea » Jun 15 2018 1:00pm

Either way, I'm glad to see more stealthy displays coming out! Very cool...

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Post by Cruncher123 » Jun 15 2018 11:14pm

Nice, but could/should be nicer. Battery integration needs more work at both top and bottom of battery. I thought the battery was going to be more hidden (like higher-end Euro designs)?

I like you rotated the motor to gain more bb clearance, but it could be nicer implementation (why not rotate the motor a bit more and make it flush with the downtube rather than leave a few cm edge?)

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Post by FREYebikes » Jun 18 2018 6:16am

About the motor angle, that's the best suitable position to fit for the motor and the whole bike according to our design and experience.
Cruncher123 wrote:
Jun 15 2018 11:14pm
Nice, but could/should be nicer. Battery integration needs more work at both top and bottom of battery. I thought the battery was going to be more hidden (like higher-end Euro designs)?

I like you rotated the motor to gain more bb clearance, but it could be nicer implementation (why not rotate the motor a bit more and make it flush with the downtube rather than leave a few cm edge?)

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Post by FREYebikes » Jun 18 2018 6:35am

About battery solution, we found the Hailong battery pack is still a good choice after considerating all kinds of factors.
The battery pack has a better support now, not only several screws.
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The battery make the whole bike has a lower center of gravity to make the bike has more fun and easy to control by the rider. we think if come with a hidden battery inside of down tube, the center of gravity will be some higher and the performance will be some different.

We tested the bike come with M500 system, although it's only 250W, but full of fun when riding it, many tester would love to play it longer instead of get off from the bike.
Upload a little video for you to have a look following:
https://youtu.be/Uix7aYxiXmU

And We expect to test the bike with M600 motor after several days. we think it will perform even better.

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by eBikeQuest » Jun 19 2018 6:17pm

Since you will be using the Hailong battery on the M600 version, will you be offering a 52v battery option?

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Post by romagjack » Jun 20 2018 4:40pm

Yes, M600 with lots of options for an all purpose (commuter/light trail bike. (rack, lights, enviolo "Nu Vinci", 2.4 -2.8 all purpose tires). You have a winner.

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Post by LowkeeRider » Jun 21 2018 1:14am

@Frey, are you going to have the downtube battery option too? I want a stealth ebike.

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by tinasdude » Jun 23 2018 6:52pm

I agree about the stealth battery. That was one of the primary things that interested me in the bike.

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Post by FREYebikes » Jun 27 2018 11:10pm

Some more photos following with bike color in blue.
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About stealth battery, Now no good stealth battery solution in good capacity available among battery & case suppliers.
We are planning to develop some big capacity system. but will see to apply on what motor system bike firstly, maybe on Ultra 1000W firstly. it will cost several months to done it. try to make the bike in good performance with big capacity.
tinasdude wrote:
Jun 23 2018 6:52pm
I agree about the stealth battery. That was one of the primary things that interested me in the bike.
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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by 18650 » Jun 28 2018 12:21am

About high capacity: does the AM1000 battery (21Ah) also fit in this frame?

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by K-ray » Jun 28 2018 10:34am

Curious... what is the weight advantage of this model VS an AM1000 with the same capacity battery attached?

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Post by cfsmale » Jun 28 2018 6:07pm

Is there no way you could modify the battery housing a little at top and bottom to make it appear more integrated? Without affecting the internals of battery? Love the bike but a slicker battery housing would be amazing!
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Post by FREYebikes » Jun 28 2018 9:05pm

To L and XL size frame, possible to fit a 65pcs cells battery pack with MAX 48V 17.5AH capacity is possible. can't be 21AH.
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About high capacity: does the AM1000 battery (21Ah) also fit in this frame?

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by FREYebikes » Jun 28 2018 9:09pm

there is some space left for removing the battery. the moving way for this battery is up and down.
If use some battery moving by side, it is possible to integrate the shape and space better.
Capacity with this kind of battery pack will come with 52pcs or 65pcs MAX.
cfsmale wrote:
Jun 28 2018 6:07pm
Is there no way you could modify the battery housing a little at top and bottom to make it appear more integrated? Without affecting the internals of battery? Love the bike but a slicker battery housing would be amazing!

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Re: FREY eMTB with Bafang m600 is developing with your ideas!

Post by FREYebikes » Jun 29 2018 12:19am

We upload a product page for this new model, you can have a look below:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 71d2W5tmAJ

Luckily, this motor system also come with throttle function that other brand mid drive motor not available so far.

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