GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » May 10 2018 9:05pm

hi alll look a other fail.. my alloy pot did Not get use 1 once .. it blend. by just fit it ,, what a waste of time :cry:


I get new custom.Titanium. tube made for me .


I hope it work out this time.. I was looking at Titanium cookware pots. I could not find a D.i 117mm o.d 119mm. if any one know were I can get pipe or pot plz tell me thank you

thank Dave for update with new gearboxs.


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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » May 13 2018 4:37am

looks like the Titanium gods are with me I got costom pipe made it was Super fast :twisted:


this my old pot on bottom pic so blend .. so much work on it
now what wait for it in the post this week

powering this this week Power 8)

I found a clone of cyclone aft motor setup
www.lift-mtb.com
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » May 18 2018 7:41pm

hi all I got now all I need to use vesc. what the best of setting up a 3220 motor with it ? just use auto. and what best software for Mac

I found this. look helpful
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Anti-Spark- ... YIUAZWBOyg


make one your self broad https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VESC-Spark- ... SwMBlZz5kK
any help would be good
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jun 14 2018 6:12am

hi all. has sill going. has I pull the bike apart I have some spare Ti to use may redo the jack shalf

To my shock I found I had a Ti shalf in stock bike I try reuse it . need find best add freewheel

bottom is stock shalf I add the ti bar to be cut


I try ano in coke this time not has good :(

I mod a water bottle to hold vesc in a fan
keep safe all
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jun 15 2018 10:23pm

hi all I been real looking how add a http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicy ... s-128.html



to use my jackshalf will it work ?


or how best add a torque-sensors. to the jackshalf ?


any help be great thank you 8)

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 07 2018 5:32am

wow All the work is done to run this dam ebike :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


for this week then I start replace all part with Ti copy to save wight I love make work hard for my self :shock: :shock: :pancake: :pancake:
I found a tool for chain off centey. I see if work well




vesc my first thing to see if I can blow it up .


it need a bit of clean for ano I was thinking green and clear ano and gold ?>

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by district9prawn » Jul 07 2018 7:57am

Is this the bottle with the vesc inside ? :P
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 07 2018 11:54pm

yes the water bottel hold vesc and fan speed broad it could use to hold my cpu water-cooling tooo

plus anti spark broad
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I am Very happy the offset motor mount plus tool look it will work out :D :D

I will part all part today to ano the Titanium pipe and clean up alloy parts for ano

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 08 2018 5:52am

hi all I been testing I got vesc to run. but it will not pick up I have a wireless remote. from estake broad

I found I had to use old software via Pc ,. to run it test it


max airdraw 3220 deta no gearbox


any help would be good thank you
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by district9prawn » Jul 08 2018 9:16pm

Try vesc-tool with latest firmware? bldc tool is quite old now. And why not ebike throttle?
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 09 2018 5:19am

I try change to use no brake in Software it was crazy. it Alive

I test run to shop only use 6s it slower then my cyclone

So I change the gearing I need mod surly track chianring run right .

my lucky I lost half link pin . damit came from usa. hard to find 415 chain here in Au I need made new by hand

the sound Very odd. Vz cyclone Ti pot did not blend happy about that. bit more tuning this week then up my downhill track :D


thank you all
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 10 2018 4:49am

dam Short ride 400 meters before I kill my jackshalf freewheel

luck it was the most hill part alloy will not cut it. Ti or stainless

my mod on track cog. now Steel Narrow Wide

dose not stuck any more. I when from 16 teeth to 18 teeth more speed 8)

vesc work well.......

wireless could be made so clean for this setup

no need for C.a

I test 6s and 12 s

can get vesc tool to work it say my firmware is to old , I try update from a few time it dose not help ?

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by district9prawn » Jul 10 2018 7:48am

aCeMadMod wrote:
Jul 10 2018 4:49am
can get vesc tool to work it say my firmware is to old , I try update from a few time it dose not help ?
If the problem is that the firmware upgrade progress bar finishes and then after reboot you are still in the old firmware then the problem is likely to be missing bootloader. Note that if your vesc DOES have a bootloader and you try to flash over it you will brick and need st-link programming tool to recover.
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 10 2018 11:24am

look like you right miss boot load is comman my vesc I got it about 1.5 year go it most likely I will try get the hardware to flash it .

it work fine sill :D


thank you for your help 8)

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 12 2018 7:34am

Very sad news I have Redo half my motor ring. I try to save it but it recranked :cry: :cry:

I to start the whole from start cast the alloy ring then cut it the right shape to fit my frame

I been for close 2 mouths for oil burner to come in post :x :x :x :x

so I can start melting allloy


so it will take other 2 months my guess to use this dam ebike ,.

it must hate me

sill need make isis Ti freewheel holders

I put my Brian to a other ebike to it get it done

thank you all for wiating

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by Alex07 » Jul 13 2018 5:49pm

aCeMadMod wrote:
Jul 09 2018 5:19am
I try change to use no brake in Software it was crazy. it Alive

I test run to shop only use 6s it slower then my cyclone

So I change the gearing I need mod surly track chianring run right .

my lucky I lost half link pin . damit came from usa. hard to find 420 chain here in Au I need made new by hand

the sound Very odd. Vz cyclone Ti pot did not blend happy about that. bit more tuning this week then up my downhill track :D


thank you all
So from what you said the AFT cyclone is faster than the tangent motor ? which one did you get from here :
https://www.aft-ebike.com/kits--pricing.html

And what voltage and current do you run the tangent vs the cyclone ?

So you also prefer the noise of the cyclone gearbox vs the tangent ? and I am guessing the cyclone setup was cheaper then the tangent ? so why would anyone get the tangent ?

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 13 2018 8:00pm

hi I can't tell my view on the much in cyclone Vz. Tangent astro 3220 I use it So short time on 6s and 12 s lipo 1 ride or less


I broke my allloy freewheel holder in my jack shalf .with Tangent astro 3220 I use full power in 50 volts or 12 s lipo for less 50 metters :shock:


I tell you my setup sound it very odd vz. cyclone or Tangent stock setup from other tube. videos

you can"t hear it till hit more half way in power :D

To make Cyclone Come close to Dave gearbox You need to do alot of work . mill time You spend alot money on Tools to do what I did . in any case

So from what you said the AFT cyclone is faster than the tangent motor ? which one did you get from here :
https://www.aft-ebike.com/kits--pricing.html

I did not buy any my cyclone motors from aft never would mod the motors the way I want So . I made my own mod motors

I need 1 more time to remade from start my motor Alloy Ring holder I hope cut down 1 kg wight out the alloy and steel upgrade to Ti and carbon

thank you all for waiting


you get see both Cyclone motor and Tangent drive . wighted and mod toooo. the max in time.

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by Mugenski » Jul 16 2018 3:25pm

I can't imagine a cyclone pushing more power than an unleashed tangent. Dave keeps the power in the tangent down with the CA3.
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 19 2018 3:30am

hi all Good Good news after 2 mouths I got my oil burner in post today. Very happy can start melt my alloy part on weekend :lol:

can't wait to start make my part thank you all
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by Gab » Jul 20 2018 12:11am

What voltage and current do you run your cyclone that it is so fast vs the tangent voltage and current ?

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 20 2018 3:26am

I done all the work this moring

to melt my alloy parts. only to find my air compress was not working it had hole in rubber I spend all day look replace part and then give up and made the part to fix it .

I hopeing it will work on weekend 8)

I use 12s lipo I can't say how Tangent astro 3220 vz cyclone. it not fiar. I use so short time. :(


I hope in 1 mouth this ebike on a world cup track :D
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Jul 31 2018 6:17am

hi got my burner set up I have say it not has ez you see it on youtube /

hard to get the thing burning well alot smoke . once you start O god So much heat. it crazy hot HARD to keep the setting right for no smoke


I try melt my motor ring agian this week I need more oil .

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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by tangentdave » Aug 03 2018 11:21am

There's some serious building going on over here.
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Re: GreenMachine allMod aftCycloneVz DaveRc Tangent astro 3220

Post by aCeMadMod » Aug 25 2018 9:06pm

hi all I had alot going on in life I had to put on Hold this ebike.


I was Very close to cast new rings. But I lack of Air was not play to get right with oil.


I Need to upgrade my Air compressor which not cheap cost the best deal I could find was $1000. plus needed a new 15 amp plug for my place installl :shock:

it will be 2 week wait to come here

I hope run a Big Vesc with this soon this bike


I Can tell you I have Dual tangentdave gearboxs Gen 1 on it way with 2x3220 motors and Super Moster T fork s 8)

once I get Right hand thread cut for the gear Box I Was Really hope For new gen 2 Rev 1.5 tangent gearboxs. Would made my life alot ez

but it seem Dave got back log in orders to keep up

and stop my order :cry:


it seem I need to make new tools to melt the alloy. I got a bigger pot to melt alloy now so new new tools I can cast 12 kg from new pot

thank you all.

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