Everytime I see a cool thing to post I decide I have to wait till the next page on the forum comes up, all I have to do is wait for bilvon/hillhater etc to argue about climate change etc on almost any thread here now till the next page comes up.
And here it is..
Hillhater, these people are wired for the tribalism/politics etc, all of this stuff on co2 is attached to being a Democrat voter vs a Republican supporter, thus the truth simply does not matter. Or a lot of them have admitted have a financial incentive attached to their views like investments or jobs in renewables etc, they don't care what the truth might be.
There is absolutely no point arguing with them, for example, I am pretty sure bilvon said he even owns a solar business, in fact for a lot of the frequent posters on here I can't think of many of the folks on here who haven't mentioned
financial incentive/job-work behind their views at one point in time. So you shouldn't ever believe you can possibly change their views, ever.
Like I have said before, forums like Whirlpool brutally suspend/ban folks for out topic posts or merely deliberate pointless posts like just doing +1 in a reply because its just filling the forum up with garbage and is disrespectful. And comparatively, if Whirlpool forums find you have financial incentive behind your post you are totally banned, that is a low act as far they are concerned.
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For me, I know I have seen an honest Tesla review on youtube when you see them complain about how long you have to wait to get access to a charge station because they are overcrowded, and then how annoying it can be waiting for your car to charge.
This video takes it to the next level, a brutal supercharger access fight.
https://twitter.com/jaydenolson1/status/1054076304654364672
^Sorry, no one has uploaded it to youtube. ^Wow looks like the video self-embedded for super convenience, nice ES forum update that one. This is a good one, because Twitter for the last year has been on fire for good information and videos etc, so many people don't upload little bits to youtube any more, it all goes to Twitter now, believe it or not..
Some argue that Elon Musk/Tesla has destroyed its reputation aiming for a profitable quarter.
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Some professional traders who analyze Tesla financials and production data on incredibly deep metrics, talk about Elon Musk as a man who is nonother than going to go to jail for a long time, at least eventually.
Seemed over the top when I first saw claims like that but with the news that just came out that even the FBI is subpoenaing ex-Tesla employees, this seems probable.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/26/18029140/tesla-model-3-production-fbi-investigation
FBI agents contacting former Tesla employees asking them for testimony in the criminal case. Some ex-employees were subpoenaed, and the FBI is seeking to interview several of them. The government’s investigation is said to stretch back to early 2017, when Tesla first began to publicize projections about the Model 3 production.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-reportedly-faces-fbi-criminal-investigation/
Saw this summary tweet about Elon's activities and thought it was good
Elon said his (fake) $420 go private was to avoid public scrutiny and short sellers....DURING an alleged all-time best record quarter that he should be dying to publish!!!
Remember his now criminal "funding secured for a take over at $420" tweet was during this most recent supposedly truly smash-hit quarterly profits result that any CEO would only dream of.
So logically there is no reason in the word to have made such a tweet if the numbers are true.
Seems like this is really unfolding into an interesting story now, almost as action packed as an Iron Man movie. What would make it really complete is that Elon Musk gets in so much trouble he turns to advancing the Super AI breakthrough to solve all his problems, and he finally cracks the Super AI nut and merely asks the Super AI to give himself superhuman powers so that no one in the planet can stop him and he can take over the world and avoid jail... Or something of that nature..
The argument being made as to why Tesla moved their 3rd quarter financial report days earlier than originally set (which is a very unusal thing to do) was due to the fact the WSJ reached out to Elon for a comment around a week BEFORE the WSJ was going to publish its "new FBI subpoena/criminal investigation" story.
This means Elon had to get his glowing profit report out early before the FBI story hit, otherwise it would ruin the Tesla stock price momentum..
https://twitter.com/markbspiegel/status/1056291369529106433
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Ellison went off script during an analyst meeting late Thursday to bring up the electric-car maker and its billionaire chief executive officer. He said Tesla is his second-largest investment"
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-26/oracle-s-ellison-says-tesla-is-his-second-biggest-investment
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On the whole issue of invisible running costs on Tesla like insurance here is a tweet which I am assuming is for the USA insurance.
This issue revolves around how difficult it is for 3rd party repairs and suppliers and just in general companies outside of Tesla to deal with them, it all ends up in just more expensive insurance costs. Such things are going to trickle down in time into potential Tesla customers decision making.
https://twitter.com/TradingTrooper/status/1056362542640062465
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More on Elon's twitter activity https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-27/musk-boasts-funding-secured-tweet-was-worth-it-calls-fbi-investigation-total-bs
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Like how I pointed out in my youtube roundup on Tesla competitors coming, Jim Chanos has always said the competition is the surest thing that will hurt Tesla.
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=70349&start=500#p1415608
If the latest update to Norway sales is to go by this seems true.
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All up I think unhappy customers from Tesla is in some ways a good thing, people trust mainstream-media way too much, which Tesla has had very positive support from them for years. People just don't google or browse the web enough other than merely what a swipe of Facebook might bring them.