@Shortcircuit911, awesome thread! very cool read, lots of ups and downs in the hole story, like you said, it definitely looks like you are in the home stretch, i'm confident that everything posted here will make everybody else have a smoother ride trying to build one, like me. I was about to pull the trigger on this same stealth clone frame (I looked up Candy Song, your manufacturer, and realized its the same manufacturar that I was going to purchase from called Dongdian but through another seller called Jessie Luo) but then I noticed that just the frame is 23-24kg and when I compared it to other clone frames out there like EEB and Risun I saw a big difference, they were 13kg and 7kg respectively and 100usd and 300usd more respectively, do you think at the end of the day those 10 or 16 kg play a big role in performance?