LMX 64 : Freeride Ebike with dual drive and torque sensor

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Re: LMX 64 : Freeride Ebike with dual drive and torque sensor

Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 15 2019 9:54am

When we send out all frames for paint we will have a little more time ;)

All 12 first frames are welded, we need to finish heat treatment next week on a few of them before sending them to paint.
We received the battery for the complete bikes. Halo rims are in stock and we are building the vortex rear wheels.
The torque sensors will be there next week. The only missing part now are the controllers that are a little late...

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Frames out of the oven. It is normal to have this look, as the frames go through T4 quenching then T6 phase.
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Anodised parts like flip chips, derailleur hangers and sproket guards.
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Post by izeman » Mar 15 2019 12:00pm

If you say 12 frames - are there more to come? Or were only 12 pre-ordered? Is my order one of them? (M**** K****)

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Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 15 2019 1:32pm

Number 9 for yours, so yes from frist batch as promised.
After those 12, we will have to wait for bulk shipping of the materials and motors by boat. For those 12 we got it air shipped to save time but it is too expensive for bulk. So the second batch deliveries will be in May.
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Post by hkj » Mar 15 2019 3:24pm

bzhwindtalker wrote:
Mar 15 2019 1:32pm
Number 9 for yours, so yes from frist batch as promised.
After those 12, we will have to wait for bulk shipping of the materials and motors by boat. For those 12 we got it air shipped to save time but it is too expensive for bulk. So the second batch deliveries will be in May.
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Hi Adam,

Is mine within those 12 as well?
/Henrik

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Mar 15 2019 6:17pm

Awesome news, glad to see progress. I'm gonna assume mine pre-order is in there also. :)

Still no news/info on the second battery mount? I'm keen to get this option on my frame if it is available.

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Post by hkj » Mar 21 2019 8:49am

They must be busy building the bikes before end of March. I've sent an inquiry via email but haven't got a response for several days.
I just hope my pre-ordered bike is within those first 12.. waiting til May would really suck.

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Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 21 2019 8:55am

Unless specified by email before, you get one of the first ones ;)
Number 12 for you HKJ

Frames are now in paint, batteries, motors, wheels, bike parts are in stock.
Assembly of the raw complete bikes has started while the others are in paint.
Controllers from nucular are not yet ready.
Full update vlog coming over the weekend.

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Post by hkj » Mar 21 2019 9:25am

Thanks a lot Adam! What a fantastic way to end a boring day at the office! 8) Awesome news! :bigthumb: :D

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Mar 22 2019 2:33am

Thanks for the update Adam.

Keen to know which frame # is mine also if you can look.

Also still after the detail on the second battery mount...is it an option or not?

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Post by Rube » Mar 22 2019 5:18am

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Mar 22 2019 2:33am
Also still after the detail on the second battery mount...is it an option or not?
Exactly, these bikes are a significant investment please keep the early supporters informed. Also, if paint options available a customer email might be a better idea than an ES post.

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Post by TorEddy » Mar 22 2019 5:42pm

Just out of curiosity.. Where would this second battery be mounted?
If mounted under the downtube, I'm pretty sure the front tire would rub when fork is compressed..

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Mar 22 2019 7:48pm

TorEddy wrote:
Mar 22 2019 5:42pm
Just out of curiosity.. Where would this second battery be mounted?
If mounted under the downtube, I'm pretty sure the front tire would rub when fork is compressed..
Well that's the idea...and the hope is that it can be done in such a way that the front tire does not rub it. Plenty of things can be done to help prevent it like positioning the battery further down, using spacers on the fork, or using a smaller front wheel if necessary, but I really hope Adam can figure it out and make it an option.

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Post by maitilupas » Mar 23 2019 1:38am

backpack battery

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Mar 23 2019 2:17am

maitilupas wrote:
Mar 23 2019 1:38am
backpack battery
Yeah, plan B...and I will probably do that anyway regardless...I just want the option of 2 packs on the bike.

Coming from a Fighter with a 2.5Kwh pack I want the max possible capacity I can fit on this bike for comparable range.

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Post by TorEddy » Mar 23 2019 4:59am

I see..
A longer and slimmer custom battery pack with the same cells and bms, could also be a solution.. But the bike will be heavy.
Putting spacers under the fork will be bad for bike geometry and riding..

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Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 24 2019 10:44am

Yeah option for now would be top tube mounted battery, down tube does not work even with normal hailong battery. On size L it is possible to fit a second battery in the triangle but we did not have time to work on some mounts yet for that. I have some pictures is will post later of options.


Anyway here is another vlog with updates and pictures.

The noise is a little high but we know why and Is solved on production bikes.


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Post by Cowardlyduck » Mar 24 2019 3:23pm

Thanks for the update Adam. And thanks for the info on the second battery mount. Will wait for those pics.

Youtube compression makes a lot of that footage in the forest look like poo...I've found Vimeo does a much better job for stuff like that.

As much as the delays suck...I'm personally up to my eyeballs in projects, so don't really mind. And I would much rather have a quality, refined product than something rushed out the door.

Take your time and get it right the first time I say. :)

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Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 25 2019 3:34am

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Post by Rube » Mar 25 2019 4:41am

Thanks Adam, fwiw I think those looking for a larger battery should consider inserting a pack with the rear wheel and shock removed, or a two piece welded pack, or a modular NESE at 14s8p. Note, this opinion is based on my rudimentary estimates so consider with caution.

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Post by Cowardlyduck » Mar 25 2019 6:22am

Thanks heaps Adam.

I see what you mean about the bottom mounted pack now. The top tube mounted pack looks like it could work, but the second pack inside the triangle sounds like the best option if it can fit with the L size packs. Is there a chance of having those mount points investigated further?

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Post by TorEddy » Mar 25 2019 8:32am

oooooooh... I can see my bike in that video:-)
I really hope the controllers won't be a delay problem!
Snow is melting and spring arriving... just saying.

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Post by hkj » Mar 26 2019 8:23am

TorEddy wrote:
Mar 25 2019 8:32am
oooooooh... I can see my bike in that video:-)
I really hope the controllers won't be a delay problem!
Snow is melting and spring arriving... just saying.
Same here! 7-11 C outside! It's time!

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Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 27 2019 3:30am

Assembly ongoing, just controllers missing..
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Post by bzhwindtalker » Mar 27 2019 3:40am

BTW, for those who ordered a complete bike, we can offer free upgrade to dual crown killah forks with direct mount stem. This with the bike in "low" position will create a true DH bike, may be interesting to some users!

Adam

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Post by izeman » Mar 27 2019 4:29am

@Adam: Cool. I'd like to go for the DUAL CROWN (order M***** K*****) please. Thank you!!

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