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papabless said:Are there clones of these? Ive seen stealth bomner frames that sell for $300
What Natas said.
papabless said:Are there clones of these? Ive seen stealth bomner frames that sell for $300
\\ (•◡•) / said:I guess I can say this in now the first FUTR with a Hammerschmidt! :thumb:, all done with 80km of testing, everything works perfect.
I also had the Hammerschmidt cranks and my controller casing Hard anodised black
Additionally there is a new back wheel on the bike, with 8g stainless spokes (brass nipples), new 19" rim and a fresh shinko 241
Thanks Rix - I Appreciate it!Rix said:Your build came out fantastic, one of the best Alpha builds I have seen to date. How about some 3rd person video of it in action?
Nicely done Allex.Allex said:This will prolly be my last build.
Retrofitted the CA to get that old school feel - stealth guys knows
Allex said:Well I build them to make some money and had a bunch of leftovers, enough to build this one. After this I will prolly concentrate my time on making sur-ron better.
Allex said:Well I build them to make some money and had a bunch of leftovers, enough to build this one. After this I will prolly concentrate my time on making sur-ron better.
Cowardlyduck said:Hey guy's,
I'm trying to figure out what the max capacity single block 20S battery can fit into a Futr Beta with 21700 cells.
So far by my guesstimate, the max is 20S6P which comes out to 118x85x417mm.
Anyone know if this is likely to be able to fit (I don't have a Beta on hand to test), or if there is another option that will fit more while keeping a simple pack design?
Cheers
Cowardlyduck said:I'm trying to make it work with 20700's as they have about 20-30% better capacity with only ~12% increase in physical dimensions.
How will you arrange the cells? I can't see how more than 6P would fit unless you start stacking some end to end and do a second layer lying down on top.icherouveim said:So after Alex's photo I think I have to split the pack in two smaller packs to be able to fit 140 pcs of 21700 cells and then it will be the dream battery pack for this small frame.
Cowardlyduck said:How will you arrange the cells? I can't see how more than 6P would fit unless you start stacking some end to end and do a second layer lying down on top.icherouveim said:So after Alex's photo I think I have to split the pack in two smaller packs to be able to fit 140 pcs of 21700 cells and then it will be the dream battery pack for this small frame.
Cheers
icherouveim said:Cowardlyduck said:How will you arrange the cells? I can't see how more than 6P would fit unless you start stacking some end to end and do a second layer lying down on top.icherouveim said:So after Alex's photo I think I have to split the pack in two smaller packs to be able to fit 140 pcs of 21700 cells and then it will be the dream battery pack for this small frame.
Cheers
The frame doesn't have the same height everywhere, there is a high point that reaches about 130-135mm so I will add more cells there also two years ago I've manage to fit 180 18650 cells with two floors design so I think my goal to fit 140 21700 can be accomplished.
This is the old battery layout that has already done 10.000km
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Thanks for reposting that original icherouveim. This layout was mentioned to me, but I couldn't find it, so thanks again.icherouveim said:The frame doesn't have the same height everywhere, there is a high point that reaches about 130-135mm so I will add more cells there also two years ago I've manage to fit 180 18650 cells with two floors design so I think my goal to fit 140 21700 can be accomplished.
This is the old battery layout that has already done 10.000km
Hello there,Cowardlyduck said:Thanks for reposting that original icherouveim. This layout was mentioned to me, but I couldn't find it, so thanks again.icherouveim said:The frame doesn't have the same height everywhere, there is a high point that reaches about 130-135mm so I will add more cells there also two years ago I've manage to fit 180 18650 cells with two floors design so I think my goal to fit 140 21700 can be accomplished.
This is the old battery layout that has already done 10.000km
In terms of decent power and capacity, I can't see 20700's beating 9P of 18650's...especially if I used Sanyo NCR18650GA's at 3.5AH each.
That's 31.5AH...2331Wh.
The closest option with 20700's would be 20S6P using the Samsung INR21700-50E, but you would be limited to 60A and still falls just short in terms of capacity at 30AH / 2220Wh.
I'm not sure 7P using 20700's could really be done safely or with a simple pack design, but I will be curious to see what you come up with.
Cheers
cheeko said:Guys
Put a Domino Throttle on and wow what a difference it makes to the bike, anyone that using a chinese one of something like that definitively worth the upgrade, my beta isnt as jumpy and i can take off much easier and im sure im reaching higher speeds.
What does everyone else think of them
I too have a power velocity controller and have been putting off getting a domino throttle ever since my first ride.cheeko said:Yeah it was from https://www.eco-ebike.com/ Probably could find cheaper but shipping to Australia not everyone wants to do.
I can say its no where near as jumpy now with the 24s actually a joy to ride, Running it with the Powervelocity controller.