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Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by FREYebikes » May 03 2019 1:01am

Glad to get the latest M600 2.0 version full suspension bike info. and would like to discuss with more friends and ebike riders. it just be tested at a mountain bike park, the performance is really exciting!

Some pictures and video have a look below:
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Youtube Video address: https://youtu.be/QGbIhHO4RuI

in the following will come with a geometry chart in 3 sizes M, L, XL

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by LowkeeRider » May 04 2019 7:31pm

Looks very nice, what size battery? I didn't see it on Frey's website, when is it available?

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by FREYebikes » May 04 2019 10:37pm

Battery capacity available now is 48V 14AH.
We will upload product link with detailed info and Geometry in coming week. I will post here for all of you who interested to have a look.

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by FREYebikes » May 04 2019 11:07pm

Geometry for M600 2.0 as below:
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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by washi » May 07 2019 5:33am

Looking good!
Do we have any information about the weight of the bike with the 48V 14AH battery?

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by FREYebikes » May 07 2019 7:51am

M600 2.0 product link below if you are interested to have a look:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 71d2CNkpQV

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by Drop Dead Fred » May 08 2019 12:13am

Hello Ivy,
Great looking bike!

One question, are the brakes MT5e or just MT5?

Thanks,
Fred

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by FREYebikes » May 09 2019 2:28am

Hi Fred,

M600 motor can come with braking power cut function.

Regards,
Ivy

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by Drop Dead Fred » May 10 2019 9:27pm

FREYebikes wrote:
May 09 2019 2:28am
Hi Fred,

M600 motor can come with braking power cut function.

Regards,
Ivy
Hi Ivy,

Thanks for the info, I just wanted to make sure you were using the cut out function in your brakes as the name did not say MT5e, it just says MT5.

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by Deafcat » May 17 2019 5:08pm

FREYebikes wrote:
May 07 2019 7:51am
M600 2.0 product link below if you are interested to have a look:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ ... 71d2CNkpQV
Looking good! This bike is a very tidy design execution and the components are well selected. Great work!

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by bradytimes » Jul 14 2019 6:06pm

I've pulled the trigger and ordered this bike. I already have a Scott Big Ed with a Bafang BBSHD motor and am very happy with it, especially in open stretches. But the cadence-only sensor on the BBSHD has a half-second delay, making technical single track less fun. I'm getting a second eBike because I want to ride with family and a few lucky friends.

I considered a few other bikes:

Frey AM1000 - The geometry is similar to the M600. Both have a slack 66.5 degree head tube angle making it good on descents. Main differences are the motor, weight, and aesthetics. The motor on the AM1000 is a beast. Going up hills won't be a problem. The downside to the big motor (and larger battery) is the weight. I figured a 12-pound motor is overkill for a single-track bike. If I want to go 30 MPH without breaking a sweat, I'll take my Big Ed. Finally, the appearance of the AM1000 is a bit dated compared to the new M600. The AM1000 doesn't fit a water bottle on the frame either. The M600 does. That's a big win in my book.

Frey Hunter - This is similar to my current bike, but with the torque-sensing Bafang Ultra motor. I love how my fat bike can power up loose climbs and not slip. I considered a second fatbike so that bring others on the same trails, year-round. In the end, I decided to diversify.

Luna Cycle X-1 Enduro - This is another full-suspension with the Bafang M600 motor. To be honest, I probably would have bought this bike for the introductory price of $3,500, but it was sold out. This has it all, if not a bit on the bleeding edge...a 12-speed eagle on an eBike, seriously? Carbon. Wow! I'd say yes, especially since Luna is domestic and stands by their warranties. I also like the extra tweaks that Luna puts into their motors. The one thing that I don't like about the X-1 is the frame configuration. I'm not a fan of the forward-facing rear suspension. It gets in the way...no room for a water bottle.

I also considered bikes from other manufacturers on Alibaba. I didn't consider any name-brand bikes because they're underpowered and overpriced, IMHO.

Ultimately, I decided to go with the Frey M600 because it looks amazing! It's like getting an expensive name brand bike but with a throttle and more power. I'm hoping that it will handle the single track better and feel more like a bike. I kind of look forward to working a bit harder going up hills too. My current bike has made me lazy. Before finalizing my purchase, I confirmed with Frey that the M600 comes with steel gears, not nylon. Some early models did and broke a lot. The bike also comes with a 12-month warranty on electric parts.

Buying this bike has taken a leap of faith since there aren't any reviews yet. I'll let you know what I think during the manufacturing process and after it arrives in a couple of months. Let me know if you have any questions along the way.

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Post by Marmalade » Jul 27 2019 4:37am

+1.. just ordered to complement my AM1000. Beautiful bike & hopefully a little more nimble!

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by bradytimes » Aug 14 2019 4:37pm

My bike’s ready. Frey sent some pics. See them below.

I'm happy to see that there's a chain protector. I've heard stories of people losing fingers with torque sensor motors. This makes the bike much safer for me and my kids. I also like the glossy paint job. Frey did a great job of using the logo to blend the dark motor/underbody with the blue top tube. It draws attention from the fact that it's an ebike.

I'm not quite sure what's going on with the cable management upfront. Seems a bit bulky. Part of that is due to the shift sensor, the little box in front of the right handlebar. It should be moved to the rear chainstay. This is where I placed it on my other bike. Hardly noticeable. I also have concerns about bunching all the cables together. The combined weight will cause the cables to slap the head tube when going over bumpy terrain. To balance this out, the cables for the display and headlight should be routed to the other side. Maybe more.

I'll post more when it arrives. I'm curious how the M600 motor handles. Unlike the Bafang Ultra motor, the M600 doesn't provide a way to customize the torque settings. I've heard that the default Ultra settings need tweaking to give it a good feel. Let's hope that Bafang has worked out the kinks this time around.
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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by Marmalade » Aug 27 2019 5:52am

Can't wait to read your review on this. Perhaps the shift sensor was put there due to it complaints about water/mud ingress.. which is easily rectified with some heatshrink filled with a little hot glue. Will be an interesting comparison with the am1000, i'm looking forward to getting an update on mine soon as well !

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by bradytimes » Sep 22 2019 3:12am

My bike came a few days ago. Here's a video of the unboxing and assembly. https://youtu.be/BTiXsz7Nz-k

I've taken it on a few rides in the foothills and like it a lot, but with a few caveats.

Pros:
* Suspension - Very plush front and rear.
* Geometry - The slack headtube inspires confidence.
* Responsive Pedal Assist - The Torque-Sensing motor is much more responsive than the BBSHD motor (cadence sensor only). Great on singletrack. The power assist kicks in almost immediately after pushing the pedals forward. The power delivery is pretty smooth, not jerky.

Cons:
* Noise of motor - Compared to the BBSHD, which is pretty silent, the M600 puts out more sound than expected. It's pretty noticeable when in lower gears and going under 10 MPH. I think this is because it has a lot more internal gearing. It's better when going over 20 and in a higher gear. I'd give this a 7 out of 10 in the negative mark. I rode a Trek bike with a Bosch motor for comparison and the Bafang is a bit louder.
* Top Speed - The top speed for pedal and throttle assist cuts out after 28 MPH. This is a true class 3 bike if you take away the throttle. It provides about 800 watts of power for the first 10 to 15 seconds. Reaching 28 MPH is pretty easy when in Assist level 5 or when holding the throttle. But for some reason, this is short-lived and it likes to settle in around 25 MPG, even in power assist level 5. Finally, when the battery level drops below 25%, the power delivery just eeks out a max of 133 watts. When this happens, you'll definitely be reminded of the good 'ol days when you had to work to go over 15 MPH.

In summary, this is a fun bike for singletrack. The plush suspension, enduro geometry, and light(er) weight inspire confidence on steep technical descents. On loopy, twisty trails with jumps, it's an absolute blast. The power is better than what you'll find in the name brand bikes, especially at this price. But don't expect this bike to do all of the work for you, especially when going on long, sustained open stretches where you just want to go fast. If that's what you want, definitely go with this the M600's older brother, the AM1000 with the Bafang Ultra.

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by litespeed » Sep 22 2019 9:14am

What did the weight end up being on your bike? I’m wondering what the difference is between the M600 and AM1000.

Beautiful bike!

Congrats.

Tom
I'm married so you know I'm no stranger to pain!

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by bradytimes » Sep 23 2019 11:13am

It weighs 62 pounds. It's a Large.

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by tsellers » Oct 09 2019 7:50pm

I am also hoping to order one of these soon, just waiting to get some info from Frey about accessorizing the order.
Regards, John

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Re: Latest FREY M600 2.0 pictures and video

Post by tsellers » Oct 14 2019 7:51pm

I will be getting some empty battery cases when I order mine, as I plan to make up my own battery with 21700 cells. So I need to plan ahead as I have already ordered my cells and charger, but I may just have time to ask for the correct end on the charger. I can't quite make it out from the pic's, can you tell me what style of connector the batter charger port uses?
Regards, John

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