[AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

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[AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Cowardlyduck » Jun 28 2019 7:19pm

Hi all,

I guess I better make it official since I've done a bunch of these already. Below you can see a few of the custom made packs I've made so far.

Here is the one I build for an FUTR Alpha earlier this year:

This gave the bike up to 200km range! :shock:

Here is a series on building a 2.3Kwh battery for a FUTR Beta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8NgGlP ... CIBLs76DM2
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I also built this 2.5Kwh battery for my own Fighter:
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And I built a long pack for my recumbent commuter:


Pricing is calculated based on a lot of factors so can be a bit hard to predict, but as a rough rule of thumb for the base pack I charge:
Pack WH / 2 + Parts.
For example for the Beta pack above this works out to:
20S9P - 74V/31.5AH - Sanyo NCR18650GA 3500mAh:
Parts:
* 180 cells: $1296
* Nickel strip: $19
* Wires: $29
* Connectors: $10
* Glue, Tape, Heatshrink, and Padding: $29
* Battery Medics x 4: $71
* Female/Male Parallel port + fitment: $165
Labour:
* 2331Wh Battery / 2: $1165
TOTAL: $2784 AUD

Note: As the Australian dollar is quite weak currently, parts costs are likely to be higher.

For BMS solutions I prefer to offer the pack with no BMS and balance leads and can offer a battery medic balancing solution as seen in several of the builds and example quote above. I'm happy to add BMS for those that want it, but will not be using cheap BMS solutions that risk destroying the pack.

Shipping within Australia is reasonable, but international shipping can be a bit ridiculous. That being said, for some it may be worth it if you need something highly customised and can't get it anywhere else.

Because every build is different I don't have all the supplies ready to go and have to order them in prior to starting a build. This means the typical time from deposit to pack completion is 2-4 months.

I'm keen to build a huge pack for a Bomber, Hurricane and P7...then I would have made the worlds longest range packs for every Stealth option. :D

Flick me a PM or email to ebikegarage@outlook.com to discus options.

Cheers
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For Sale:
Custom made 18650/21700 battery packs - Australia only
High Power LiPo wiring harnesses - 4P - XT90, HXT4mm, 5.5mm. 200Amp+ capable. Global shipping.

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Rix » Aug 09 2019 11:59am

Hey CD, I was just looking at your Fighter battery, that is alot of battery!!!! Did you have to modify the frame to fit that battery in there?

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Cowardlyduck » Aug 09 2019 6:36pm

Hey Rick,

Nah the Fighter battery was built to the exact dimensions of the frame opening. Maximum possible capacity that can fit without modding the frame.
I'm not keen on loosing my lifetime frame warranty, so any drastic frame modding is out of the question.

The Beta battery above on the other hand did require some frame 'corrections'. I wouldn't say they were even mods as the only reason the battery wouldn't fit was because the frame had a lot of factory imperfections and the opening was far from square/straight.

Cheers
My stuff:
Ebike Garage - My YouTube Ebike ramblings.
Cowardlyducks - Videos - Ride videos
BikeE recumbent commuter - 9C, 6Fet Grinfineon, internal 17AH, 52V, + on-board solar.

For Sale:
Custom made 18650/21700 battery packs - Australia only
High Power LiPo wiring harnesses - 4P - XT90, HXT4mm, 5.5mm. 200Amp+ capable. Global shipping.

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Rix » Aug 09 2019 7:05pm

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Aug 09 2019 6:36pm
Hey Rick,

Nah the Fighter battery was built to the exact dimensions of the frame opening. Maximum possible capacity that can fit without modding the frame.
I'm not keen on loosing my lifetime frame warranty, so any drastic frame modding is out of the question.

The Beta battery above on the other hand did require some frame 'corrections'. I wouldn't say they were even mods as the only reason the battery wouldn't fit was because the frame had a lot of factory imperfections and the opening was far from square/straight.

Cheers
Oh yah, I totally forgot about the warranty thing. Im on the fence with my next build. Which is rebuild the Bomber or build up my Alpha. The Bomber battery will not fit in the Alpha frame without increasing the opening. I like the Vboxx which is why I am leaning towards rebuilding the bomber. But I got this Alpha frame in army green just sitting there. Decisions?????

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Cowardlyduck » Aug 09 2019 7:16pm

Well you can copy what I did above for your Alpha and you'll get a 3.25Kwh battery. :)

Or if your keen, you could build 2 at once to save total time/cost.

I'm currently looking into cheaper international shipping options. I'm hopping I can get the shipping cost below $500AUD. If that's possible then I should be able to compete with Stealth on replacement Bomber/Fighter packs. :D

Cheers
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Ebike Garage - My YouTube Ebike ramblings.
Cowardlyducks - Videos - Ride videos
BikeE recumbent commuter - 9C, 6Fet Grinfineon, internal 17AH, 52V, + on-board solar.

For Sale:
Custom made 18650/21700 battery packs - Australia only
High Power LiPo wiring harnesses - 4P - XT90, HXT4mm, 5.5mm. 200Amp+ capable. Global shipping.

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Rix » Aug 10 2019 10:54am

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Aug 09 2019 7:16pm
Well you can copy what I did above for your Alpha and you'll get a 3.25Kwh battery. :)

Or if your keen, you could build 2 at once to save total time/cost.

I'm currently looking into cheaper international shipping options. I'm hopping I can get the shipping cost below $500AUD. If that's possible then I should be able to compete with Stealth on replacement Bomber/Fighter packs. :D

Cheers
Yah, shipping makes it a tough market. I ran into this problem back when I was importing Crystalyte 5404 motors. I was pigging backing on a friend who had a dealer license so shipping to me was cheap. However, re selling and shipping around the world, I was only making about 20 bucks a unit and wasn't worth the head ache to do it. I got out because of that.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Cowardlyduck » Feb 21 2020 6:43am

CJonaBttlrckt wrote:
Feb 21 2020 3:41am
From where do others in Australia source batteries?
Doesn't seem easy nor cost effective.
Correct, which is why I can build one for you instead:
viewtopic.php?t=101045

Nobody ever guessed it before but I'm currently building this 20S12P pack for a Hurricane:
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PM me if you want something made.

Cheers
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Ebike Garage - My YouTube Ebike ramblings.
Cowardlyducks - Videos - Ride videos
BikeE recumbent commuter - 9C, 6Fet Grinfineon, internal 17AH, 52V, + on-board solar.

For Sale:
Custom made 18650/21700 battery packs - Australia only
High Power LiPo wiring harnesses - 4P - XT90, HXT4mm, 5.5mm. 200Amp+ capable. Global shipping.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by Cowardlyduck » Feb 21 2020 6:37pm

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Feb 21 2020 12:36pm
I was thinking about making my next battery but after watching all the work you have to do CD, it makes me feel a lot better about just buying a battery.
Yeah, it's a lot of work. People often baulk at the prices I quote, but they don't realise I'm actually paying myself bugger all for the time it takes to build them.
The main benefit I actually get is the bulk cell rates and supplier deals I get when I order huge cell quantities. Then I get to keep some for myself and all my own projects for very reasonable prices. :)

Cheers
My stuff:
Ebike Garage - My YouTube Ebike ramblings.
Cowardlyducks - Videos - Ride videos
BikeE recumbent commuter - 9C, 6Fet Grinfineon, internal 17AH, 52V, + on-board solar.

For Sale:
Custom made 18650/21700 battery packs - Australia only
High Power LiPo wiring harnesses - 4P - XT90, HXT4mm, 5.5mm. 200Amp+ capable. Global shipping.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Feb 22 2020 12:00pm

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Feb 21 2020 6:37pm
Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Feb 21 2020 12:36pm
I was thinking about making my next battery but after watching all the work you have to do CD, it makes me feel a lot better about just buying a battery.
Yeah, it's a lot of work. People often baulk at the prices I quote, but they don't realise I'm actually paying myself bugger all for the time it takes to build them.
The main benefit I actually get is the bulk cell rates and supplier deals I get when I order huge cell quantities. Then I get to keep some for myself and all my own projects for very reasonable prices. :)

Cheers
I totally understand. I'm in the service business, and I know what I charge. If I charged the same as I charge now for all the work making a big battery pack my labor would probably be 5 times the price of the battery's.

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Re: E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

Post by CJonaBttlrckt » Feb 29 2020 6:15am

Cowardlyduck wrote:
Feb 21 2020 6:43am
CJonaBttlrckt wrote:
Feb 21 2020 3:41am
From where do others in Australia source batteries?
Doesn't seem easy nor cost effective.
Correct, which is why I can build one for you instead:
viewtopic.php?t=101045

Nobody ever guessed it before but I'm currently building this 20S12P pack for a Hurricane:
DSC_5909.JPG

PM me if you want something made.

Cheers
Hi and thanks CD,
Maybe my next battery...we'll see!

I really only want about fifty cells, as I was hoping to get another year or two out of my relatively recently purchased battery, with a bit of cell replacement.
There seems to be a few parallel packs that aren't keeping up.
I'm not confident the BMS isn't the cause.

I directed said Hurricane owner to you for the new battery.
The Hurricane's in my shed being subjected to foot peg assembly replacement with a bottom bracket for single speed pedal setup.

Cheers,
Clinton

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Cowardlyduck » Apr 22 2020 7:42am

Here is that Hurricane battery mentioned above being built:
My stuff:
Ebike Garage - My YouTube Ebike ramblings.
Cowardlyducks - Videos - Ride videos
BikeE recumbent commuter - 9C, 6Fet Grinfineon, internal 17AH, 52V, + on-board solar.

For Sale:
Custom made 18650/21700 battery packs - Australia only
High Power LiPo wiring harnesses - 4P - XT90, HXT4mm, 5.5mm. 200Amp+ capable. Global shipping.

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Re: [AUSTRALIA] Custom made 18650/21700 Batteries

Post by Rix » Apr 22 2020 10:41am

SWEET!

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