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ebikeguy123 said:
Sur-Ron - New Mid drive Bike
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Awesome feature! What cells are used in this battery?ebikeguy123 said:
This is nothing more than a drawing. The definition of vaporware. It'll be 50 years before they perfect the physics that allow the motor and lower half of the shock and linkage to occupy the same space. Even if the drawing was better thought out no one wants motor weight on their suspension. If the frame had a longer reach for better fit and handling it would make room for a bigger battery. With the right designer and test rider Sur-ron could so easily make a big brother to the Light Bee with better geo, more range, better suspension, tires, and brakes at 120lbs and $5,500.ebikeguy123 said:
48v Hybrid PHEV kit
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ebikeguy123 said:
Thank you for your feedback and opinion. Yes its just a drawing and has a long way to go. But the pics her now show that 50 years can go by in a blink. lol. it adds no unsprung weight.
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ebikeguy123 said:
Nathan Armstrong is the lead product development... https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanarmstrong1/?originalSubdomain=ca
nathan and Darren etc seem to have a track record of delivering many many many times.
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Cheburator said:
Thanks. Trying a few but we like https://www.maxwell.com/products/
They were acquired by Tesla
That's because those pictures are an entirely different bike that doesn't have a linkage occupying the same space as a motor, nor a motor mounted on the swingarm.ebikeguy123 said:
Edit: Actually those are photos of two different bikes, both different than the digital "photo" I commented on. If you wanna make some money focus on developement and release nothing until your bike is ready to ship. Make it like a Sur-ron except with better geo, suspension, brakes, and front wheel.
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Lelandjt said:
the hemp fiber surron design pictured above does have a concentric motor / swingarm pivot .. and the motor is mounted to the mainframe, not the swingarm.. it uses the storm bee motor and gearbox reduction with the output sprocket concentric with the swingarm pivot (look closely
.. that's why the other two bikes are pictured, for example and comparison..
efMX Trials Electric Freeride said:the hemp fiber surron design pictured above does have a concentric motor / swingarm pivot .. and the motor is mounted to the mainframe, not the swingarm.. it uses the storm bee motor and gearbox reduction with the output sprocket concentric with the swingarm pivot (look closely
From what i can see the output sprocket is not in the swingarm pivot (look at the chainline) so the entire drive unit (motor + gearbox) is for sure mounted to the swingarm and not to the mainframe.
But even if it adds a bit to unsprung mass it will not effect supsension that much since the mass is mostly placed around the pivot point where it's inertia is quite low.
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I agree about the chain line, but the motor is definitely mounted to the mainframe and concentric with the pivot, while the reduction extends rearward to the chain line, afaict .. would like to see the swing removed, bit harder to discern some details without seeing the other side etc?? either way the design elements are not outside the realm of possibility.. ok had another closer look myself motor is concentric to the pivot, reduction in mounted to swingarm. motor mounted from and at the pivot actually rotates, moves with suspension movement.. so motor weight, mass is located on the frame yet pivots with the suspension.. very interesting 
motor is concentric to the pivot, reduction in mounted to swingarm. motor mounted from and at the pivot actually rotates, moves with suspension movement.. so motor weight, mass is located on the frame yet pivots with the suspension.. very interesting
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efMX Trials Electric Freeride said:I agree about the chain line, but the motor is definitely mounted to the mainframe and concentric with the pivot, while the reduction extends rearward to the chain line, afaict .. would like to see the swing removed, bit harder to discern some details without seeing the other side etc?? either way the design elements are not outside the realm of possibility.. ok had another closer look myself
The final product will look like a combo of the GT Fury carbon and the Sur Ron.
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ebikeguy123 said:Webp.net-compress-image (2).jpgefMX Trials Electric Freeride said:I agree about the chain line, but the motor is definitely mounted to the mainframe and concentric with the pivot, while the reduction extends rearward to the chain line, afaict .. would like to see the swing removed, bit harder to discern some details without seeing the other side etc?? either way the design elements are not outside the realm of possibility.. ok had another closer look myself
Thank you for your comments. 3D rendering underway with a prototype over the next 60 days
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Offroader said:
Hemp is less expensive, lighter and cradle to cradle better fort he environment.
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My fear would be how to fix something if it broke. If I crack my Sur-Ron frame or swingarm I can fix it.
I have no idea how I would fix hemp. Smoke it and say goodbye?
I have no idea how I would fix hemp. Smoke it and say goodbye?
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crazy_dave said:My fear would be how to fix something if it broke. If I crack my Sur-Ron frame or swingarm I can fix it.
I have no idea how I would fix hemp. Smoke it and say goodbye?
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since its made from stem fibers and not flowers that would just give you a headache to burn don't ask me how I know).. good news is, as a raw material hemp is cheap and with many other possible industrial uses and products beyond frames.. did you know that henry ford used hemp in early production..
don't ask me how I know).. good news is, as a raw material hemp is cheap and with many other possible industrial uses and products beyond frames.. did you know that henry ford used hemp in early production..
A quick search shows hemp is not that great of a fiber for strength. Flax is quite a bit better. Fiberglass is more than 3x stronger.
The BS alarm is going off....
The BS alarm is going off....
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3DTOPO said:
Moving the motor back to make more room for battery for more power and greater range is the goal... hemp is to reduce price and cradle to cradle better for environment. Carbon credits and many other incentives greatly reduce the final price. The magic is in the weave and resins as well as some metal in headtube as well as pivot point. stronger material to take the high-load points.
2 be.e or not 2 bee's.. thats the question
Already exists.. hemp Be.e electric scooter
we take the bullshit and use it as fertilizer to grow the hemp.
www.vaneko.com
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It appears that you are getting the required strength by adding bulk (legitimate strategy), do you think that will work with the much more contact chassis required on a dirt bike? That scooter is anything but svelte.
Personally I like composites, they are easier to repair than aluminum provided you are willing to add a little weight and the resins are compatible.
Personally I like composites, they are easier to repair than aluminum provided you are willing to add a little weight and the resins are compatible.
