neptronix said:
etriker said:
There is an armed guard at the local jewelry store.
Armed guards to protect the money and jewels and such.
Why not protect our children at school ?
All the crazy people and guns in our country. And they can walk into a school and no one is there that can protect them ? ? ?
Because a business will protect itself out of self interest. A person will, as well. Government does not have the same level of motive.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4082066...ds-school-bus-has-no-seat-belts/#.UM38sIM0WSo
Here's a pretty good example :lol:
If you want your kids well protected, and better yet, well educated.. a government school is not the place to send them, that's for sure.
Whoever made that illustration is ignorant to Newton's Laws of Motion. The inertia of those school buses is only matched by other school buses and 18-wheeler trucks. They are very much weighted on the bottom and so they aren't likely to tip, and the drivers are meticulous about safety.
The term "government schools" was coined by right wing radio, specifically Neil Boortz, a man who seems to have little compassion for anyone (hate radio host) and someone known to make racist comments.
A free public education is a huge contributor of the middle class, and I could spend days and days listing wonderful and successful people throughout the world who attended public schools throughout their entire lives, including Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, not to mention Jimmy Carter and others. MLK, Rosa Parks, and more.
I teach in public school, have children that attend private, public and home school. Each situation presents positives and negatives for each child, and children should be where they thrive best.
To claim that public, private or home schooling is best is no different than claiming that chocolate, strawberry or vanilla ice cream is best. Each is right for certain individuals.
To the guys claiming that teachers should be armed with guns: That simply won't work. The idea that a Kindergarten teacher is going to gather the kids around the calendar each morning to count, discuss shapes, put a little smiling sun on the day's square, and sing a few songs while wearing a gun strapped to her waist is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Heck, I teach fifth grade and I wouldn't wear one if I was told I could.
And Philistine said the same thing I'm telling people: the people who say we need more guns in society are never there when you need them. They claim that everyone carrying guns is the answer, but the mass murders keep on coming.
You guys don't understand what you're dealing with when someone goes on a killing spree like that. It's a wild animal. It's like looking up and seeing a grizzly bear coming at you and you have seconds to react. I don't care if you have a gun on your waist. You're not going to make it. That bear is going to tear you up, especially since you were completely unprepared.
These ladies were most likely smiling, helping kids put coats on the hooks, reading notes from parents, placing lunch boxes in the cubbies, and helping the little girls and boys. Most of the kids were talking non-stop about their exciting little worlds with anyone who will listen: the other kids, the teacher, the teacher's assistant, etc. They talked about the basketball game they played the night before, the movie they watched, the exciting holiday coming up, and much more.
The very last thing on anyone's mind was a shooter, even after the first gunshots. How many of you have actually heard gunshots in an area that you weren't expecting it? It takes the mind a long time to register what's going on. The element of surprise is huge, and the killer knows this. Those ladies didn't stand a chance, but they did the best they could and saved a lot of kids. Each hallway has about 200 children, which means 90 percent of the kids on that hallway were pushed or pulled to safety. Twenty didn't make it, which is twenty too many.
Armed teachers is (please pardon my blunt language) a stupid idea and it won't happen...ever.
Finally, (for this post): I am an American. I've lived here my whole life (44 years). I grew up in San Diego, have visited Los Angeles hundreds of times, been to Chicago, New York, Atlanta, Denver, Dallas, Miami, and just about every major city in America. I've been to Jamaica, the Bahamas, Honduras, Belize, and
countless times to the north, central and southern parts of Mexico.
Of the 50 states I have visited over 40 of them.
In my 44 years alive and living in the USA I've had many experiences firing guns. I've shot handguns of various calibers, shotguns, high-powered rifles (including the very gun model used in that massacre and an AK-47), and enjoyed shooting all of them....for fun.....at targets.
Now here's the good part: In my 44 years of life I have never once....ever....seen a human being point a gun at another human being. Not once. That means that, obviously, I have never seen anyone shoot at another human, which also means I've never seen anyone shot at or get shot.
I've seen it thousands of times on TV and in the movies, but I'm 44 and haven't ever seen a human being (in all the five or six nations I've visited) point a gun at another human being.
The USA is actually a pretty decent law-abiding place. There are pockets of total chaos here and there, mostly in the major cities, and we have strange and random gun violence (especially this year), but it's still exceptionally rare.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I've never witnessed gun violence, knife violence, blunt object violence (baseball bat, hammer, etc.).
I've seen fist fights, of course, and gotten clocked in the jaw a few times myself, but that's it.
In fact, the only person I ever watched die was my mother from cancer about twelve years ago. That's it.
At least he could kill one or two people using these means before being brought down, not 26.
