dogman wrote:AW had spoke problems with 20" wheel. Radial laced But that was a stock 9c rim and stator I sent him. Surely it can be done stronger.
Yes, it can--just using "real" spokes instead of the crappy ones that come on those wheels helps a lot.
If you look in the CrazyBike2 thread starting in maybe July-ish, maybe August, it should show the new Sapim spokes used on a similar Crystalyte wheel (to replace the crappy ones it came with that just kept snapping fast until I had at least 10 broken ones) in an odd lacing suggested by JustinLE. It's radial on the left side, and 1x on the "drive" (right) side--but to help the spokes go into the rim straighter to put less strain on teh threads, they are bent a couple cm in from the end of the spoke, for those 1x spokes.
So far it survived WAY better than the other--but I *have* lost two spokes--both from severe potholes (one of which I couldn't see under the puddles in the rain, and was new because of the rain and cars going thru it, I guess, cuz I know where all of the dangerously large holes and bumps are, so I can avoid them even if I can't see them). That first big pothole is at least a couple inches deep, and I was probably going 18-20MPH when I hit it--hard enough to flatten the rim itself, too. (cheap one that came on the Crystalyte wheel, but still a doublewall). I don't remember what broke the other one.
But so far no other spokes have gone, evne with some of the other stuff I've hit that I had no way around it at that instant.
All that said--if I had *any* kind of suspension back there other than the flex of the long long frame itself, I doubt I would be having such problems with the spokes in teh first place (some, yes, but not like this).