Get the cam out and lets see some fast mileage.Lowell said:Never tried a 30% grade as we don't have hills like that here, but all my parts were off the shelf from Ebikes.ca, and the only real DIY mod was the higher current MOSFETs I added to the controller. 48mph on the flats, 37mph+ on the hills I have to go up.
EbikeMaui said:Get the cam out and lets see some fast mileage.Lowell said:Never tried a 30% grade as we don't have hills like that here, but all my parts were off the shelf from Ebikes.ca, and the only real DIY mod was the higher current MOSFETs I added to the controller. 48mph on the flats, 37mph+ on the hills I have to go up.
Just wait until you see my 72 volt video :wink:knoxie said:no problem at all i can easily do 25 miles using only 6ah of batteries at an average of 22mph, its even better if i switch to my lipo packs, check out knightmb video on here his video run is a good match.
EbikeMaui said:Until you or anyone else proves they can ride on hills in a video that is non stop and unedited on a 14 mile or more round trip with elevation changes such as in this video you are just talk.
This ebike system goes up 30% grades at 14 mph and does 45 mph on the flats at a good efficiency averaging a 20 MPH round trip ANYWHERE! Pedaling or not.Where can you get one off the shelf that does this that lasts more than a few months or trips? Note the elevation changes on the map.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=796906
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6193354267582670871&q=ecyclemaui
EbikeMaui said:This ebike system goes up 30% grades at 14 mph and does 45 mph on the flats at a good efficiency averaging a 20 MPH round trip ANYWHERE! Pedaling or not. Where can you get one off the shelf that does this that lasts more than a few months or trips?
Use this map to show elevation changes and route of your tripThe speed shows a lot in the videos.The size of battery pack shows your capacity if you state the type and brand of batteries.knightmb said:Here in TN, we do have hills that meet 30% grade and more (I know a park that contains 35% and 40% grade, Percy Warner Park to be exact) I know that when I hit those 40% grade hills the motor is lucky to take me 10MPH up the hill. If I pedal, I can without much effort keep it at 20 MPH but it's very curvy when you get that high up so I haven't tried to go faster than that.
Perhaps my next video, I'll put both a speed-o-meter and a level gauge to show how steep the bike is climbing and film that. Would make for an interesting movie. The park is too curvy/steep to go really fast, but it is to travel at high speed through the forest. Everything being so close makes everything look faster :wink:
And not to bang other people and their videos, but we only have each other's word to take for our speed. I used a speed-o-meter so I wouldn't have to call out the speed every few seconds so it helps to show how fast one is really going. Plus, my last video with a lot of car traffic helps to show how fast I'm really traveling compared to your normal gas powered vehicles.
Let's see your 40 minute unedited video of your ebike beating my brick on wheels.knoxie said:EbikeMaui said:Until you or anyone else proves they can ride on hills in a video that is non stop and unedited on a 14 mile or more round trip with elevation changes such as in this video you are just talk.
This ebike system goes up 30% grades at 14 mph and does 45 mph on the flats at a good efficiency averaging a 20 MPH round trip ANYWHERE! Pedaling or not.Where can you get one off the shelf that does this that lasts more than a few months or trips? Note the elevation changes on the map.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=796906
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6193354267582670871&q=ecyclemaui
Hey Randy you asked the question! and i told you, the fact is the BMC or the Currie and the cyclone and xlytes, equipped with suitable batteries and controllers can do this? WHAT YOU HAVE IS NOTHING SPECIAL its no more efficient than anything else and your tall riser bars and bobbing cheap rear suspension make it even more inefficient like a brick on wheels.
You kept harping on like this on other forums and got yourself moderated, will you ever learn? I can do a super dull 40 or 50 min video if you like? I dont see what it proves? esp your video, whats the point in showing off in this way if nobody can buy a kit like yours?
If your idea was so great it would have been picked up by someone by now as its been around for ages? the reason it hasnt is because there are kits around already that can already do it.
Your machine is such old news its not even worth any more discussion, over and out!
This video is far more impressive as were all of wcriders X5 videos, these kits are off the shelf, no need for expensive geared hubs and huge sprockets, oh i forgot with your kit when you peddle without the motor you are driving the motor around, how efficient is that? these are supposed to be power assist bikes after all.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=568
Its a shame wcriders vids are no longer available.
Knoxie
I'll do this for the last ride video I did (I'm curious as well), the one for Percy Warner Park, no luck on google maps. It doesn't show any of the inroads, so I'm not sure how to plot it out. Here is a map from the website though that shows the internal paths in the park. The only reason I know some of these grades is because the bike club has measured them. It's often on some roads to find stalled cars around the top where it's really steep. That's why they sweep through to pick up the stalled vehicles from time to time.EbikeMaui said:Use this map to show elevation changes and route of your tripThe speed shows a lot in the videos.The size of battery pack shows your capacity if you state the type and brand of batteries.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=796906
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6193354267582670871&q=ecyclemaui
Nice route! where is the matching video ?knightmb said:Here we go, latest pedal route for my last video. Was quite fun to make the map
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=808377
EbikeMaui said:Nice route! where is the matching video ?knightmb said:Here we go, latest pedal route for my last video. Was quite fun to make the map
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=808377
Nice Job! You may hold the speed/distance ebike Video (with pedaling)record.I nominate you to the Ebike hall of Flame.knightmb said:EbikeMaui said:Nice route! where is the matching video ?knightmb said:Here we go, latest pedal route for my last video. Was quite fun to make the map
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=808377
The last one I posted.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=568
Easy! TWO side by side freewheels on a freewheeling freehub.The large sprocket has a sprocket adapter that clamps to the OD of a freewheel roller bearing that slides onto the freehub via a splined ID of the freewheel bearing.Both the Motor and OR Pedals Drives the 3 speed hub in common or independently via freewheels except while one or the other or both coast freely.It pedals like a bicycle with NO more drag pedaling or coasting than a regular coasting derailer other than a addition of 20 lbs for the 5 lb of motor , 14 lbs of batteries @72 volts 10ah, and a extra 8mm timing chain and composite sprocket for the motor drive.EbikeMaui said:Nice Job! You may hold the speed/distance ebike Video (with pedaling)record.I nominate you to the Ebike hall of Flame.knightmb said:EbikeMaui said:Nice route! where is the matching video ?knightmb said:Here we go, latest pedal route for my last video. Was quite fun to make the map
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=808377
The last one I posted.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=568
I imagine your low end speeds and efficiency to 20 mph up steeper hills without pedaling kinda suck?