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Post by ryrideswhat » Oct 26 2014 9:00pm

Got a reply from Stealth today re 'soft start.'

The soft start is a softer throttle mapping, it will make acceleration far more gradual. It should help you stay on the bike while you are getting used to the torque.
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Post by ryrideswhat » Oct 26 2014 9:03pm

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Have you ever heard of this stuff? I've never tried it, but it looks interesting. There's youtube videos of tests on it. There's more than one kind on the market.

One negative comment I've heard is that it can discolor over time. It's possible some of the products may have addressed this problem.


http://www.neverwet.com/anti-wetting.php
I've heard of products very similar to that. People use them to coat their phones and stuff. Mostly the feedback I've heard is that over a short time it starts to discolour and go tacky, then peel off. It's very easy to submerge something and say "look it's still dry after a million years." Well, yeah, you didn't agitate it at all? Different story when applied to a bike subjected to speed,wind, rain, the rider's body scraping etc.
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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 26 2014 9:14pm

ryrideswhat wrote:
Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Have you ever heard of this stuff? I've never tried it, but it looks interesting. There's youtube videos of tests on it. There's more than one kind on the market.

One negative comment I've heard is that it can discolor over time. It's possible some of the products may have addressed this problem.


http://www.neverwet.com/anti-wetting.php
I've heard of products very similar to that. People use them to coat their phones and stuff. Mostly the feedback I've heard is that over a short time it starts to discolour and go tacky, then peel off. It's very easy to submerge something and say "look it's still dry after a million years." Well, yeah, you didn't agitate it at all? Different story when applied to a bike subjected to speed,wind, rain, the rider's body scraping etc.
Yeah I definitely don't think it would work for a cell phone because you have to handle it all the time. Something like a controller might have better results though, since you don't normally touch it with your hands. I'm thinking in London, you're going to be needing some kind of water proofing. You'll be a good test case for the rest of us over time.

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Post by ryrideswhat » Oct 26 2014 9:21pm

Theodore Voltaire wrote:I'm thinking in London, you're going to be needing some kind of water proofing. You'll be a good test case for the rest of us over time.
Definitely gonna try avoid riding in bad weather. For anyone out there who is interested by the way, I use an iPhone app called Dark Sky. It's a hyper local weather app that pings you when rain is going to occur. I find it's bang on 9 times out of 10.
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Post by DunkenKBliths » Oct 26 2014 11:23pm

Hey guys...

coming up to 10km...think its time for a VBOX clean out and re grease

tips ...and what cleaner to use ? (I already use Super Lube for the grease)

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Post by Jimboyr6 » Oct 27 2014 2:55am

ryrideswhat wrote:
Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Have you ever heard of this stuff? I've never tried it, but it looks interesting. There's youtube videos of tests on it. There's more than one kind on the market.

One negative comment I've heard is that it can discolor over time. It's possible some of the products may have addressed this problem.


http://www.neverwet.com/anti-wetting.php
I've heard of products very similar to that. People use them to coat their phones and stuff. Mostly the feedback I've heard is that over a short time it starts to discolour and go tacky, then peel off. It's very easy to submerge something and say "look it's still dry after a million years." Well, yeah, you didn't agitate it at all? Different story when applied to a bike subjected to speed,wind, rain, the rider's body scraping etc.


Also to add its can cause cancer,this stuffs always to good to b anygood
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Post by stritzky » Oct 27 2014 4:10am

DunkenKBliths wrote:Hey guys...

coming up to 10km...think its time for a VBOX clean out and re grease

tips ...and what cleaner to use ? (I already use Super Lube for the grease)

Dunk
Use 1 - 2 Cans of WD40 To clean out all the old gunk. Alex had a post about this some time ago.

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Post by Villain » Oct 27 2014 5:30am

stritzky wrote:
DunkenKBliths wrote:Hey guys...

coming up to 10km...think its time for a VBOX clean out and re grease

tips ...and what cleaner to use ? (I already use Super Lube for the grease)

Dunk
Use 1 - 2 Cans of WD40 To clean out all the old gunk. Alex had a post about this some time ago.


I would not recommend using WD40 for this. You risk washing out grease from parts of the box that cannot be regreased by injecting new grease into the 4 ports.
You should do as the Vboxx manual recommends and use a low viscosity gear box oil.

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Post by ryrideswhat » Oct 27 2014 7:59am

If you like pimping out your ride, these look cool: http://www.quigleymotorsport.com/accessories.html

Particularly like the way the full metal jacket protects the underside.
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Post by Rix » Oct 27 2014 8:50am

Dlogic wrote:Here we go now, the time has come for a small premier. Possibly the web´s first Vboxx repair video. Enjoy! :D

Part 1, the disection:



Part 2, the shafts explained



Part 3, assembly and adjustment



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I would not recommend using WD40 for this. You risk washing out grease from parts of the box that cannot be regreased by injecting new grease into the 4 ports.
You should do as the Vboxx manual recommends and use a low viscosity gear box oil.
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Martin, aka Dlogic, made these excellent tutorial videos on splitting the Vboxx case for repairs and assembly. Couple of years back, I PM' Martin and asked for his advice about servicing the Vboxx, He told me the following: Use bicycle chain degreaser and put a bunch of it in one the upper grease filling holes, ride around gently for a km or so gently pedaling and shifting through all of the gears. Then stand the bike up straight and remove the bottom drain screw on the vboxx and drain out all of the old grease and degreaser fluid. It will take a bit, and there may be some degreaser fluid leaking out of the sides, which is normal as the Vboxx isn't "water tight". After completely drained, put the plug back in and refill with grease placing even amounts in all 4 ports and pedal shifting back and forth between 1-9. Now this is not verbatim how Martin worded it, I can't remember all as there was additional explanations provided by him. Anyway, Villian, not trying to discredit your comment, but I have done 2 services, 3 services after tomorrow as my dad is down visiting me on the Vboxx. In the past I used WD40 to decrease the old transmission case following Martins guide lines, and then re-greasing with super lube. Its worked great and haven't had any issues with the vboxx. I also found that putting 30cc of grease in each hole, vs 20cc such as the manual says helps with pedal smoothness in gears 2, 4, 6, and 8.

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Post by SamM » Oct 27 2014 9:02am

It's too bad they don't make anything for the Fighter. I'm not crazy about a lot of it but a kickstand would be nice.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 9:40am

SamM wrote:It's too bad they don't make anything for the Fighter. I'm not crazy about a lot of it but a kickstand would be nice.

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Post by Emmett » Oct 27 2014 9:51am

Teddy, sorry if this is a dumb question, but what do the bar end tassels actually do? I suppose they'd keep flies off your forearms. Good in the Outback.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 10:04am

I've appreciate my kick stand very much. At first I didn't love the way it looked, but soon after installing it I got used to it, and now I hardly notice it. It's very solid, and confidence inspiring. I never worry that my bike is going to fall over no matter what kind of surface I'm parked on.

At first I was a little concerned about it looking too motorcycle like, because it is so strong, and sturdy looking, but considering the rest of the bike, it hardly adds much more to that. I looks right at home on such a beefy looking bike. For $115 it isn't too hard on the wallet either. I didn't invent it though, I just copied other Bomber owners that came before me, and were nice enough to let me know about it.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 10:29am

Emmett wrote:Teddy, sorry if this is a dumb question, but what do the bar end tassels actually do? I suppose they'd keep flies off your forearms. Good in the Outback.
They have several important functions. Swatting fly's is only one of them. Their main job is to act as a kind of hypnotic decoy to divert attention away from the rest of the bike in case one of the local constabulary might get the wrong idea about thinking he just saw an illegal, unregistered moped going 50 mph down the street, right before his lying eyes. At the same time they stealthily allow me to fly my freak flag in the face of conformity, in a world of uptight yuppie's, hipster's, and rednecks. Or maybe it's just cause like them LOL.

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Post by stritzky » Oct 27 2014 10:43am

Theodore Voltaire wrote:
Emmett wrote:Teddy, sorry if this is a dumb question, but what do the bar end tassels actually do? I suppose they'd keep flies off your forearms. Good in the Outback.
They have several important functions. Swatting fly's is only one of them. Their main job is to act as a kind of hypnotic decoy to divert attention away from the rest of the bike in case one of the local constabulary might get the wrong idea about thinking he just saw an illegal, unregistered moped going 50 mph down the street, right before his lying eyes. At the same time they stealthily allow me to fly my freak flag in the face of conformity, in a world of uptight yuppie's, hipster's, and rednecks. Or maybe it's just cause like them LOL.
And TV you forgot to mention that you always can tie up your bike to something. With those streamers.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 10:44am

I'm noticing that my front fender is doing a really good job of keeping the under area of my frame, and my controller clean. Same with the back, around the shock, and seat frame. It's still taking some time to get used to having a fender though, because when I'm riding down the street, and I ride across a water trail, I still duck out of habit like I'm going my face sprayed again.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 10:56am

stritzky wrote:
And TV you forgot to mention that you always can tie up your bike to something. With those streamers.
Yeah, I can think of a million other uses. Devout Catholics could tie metal balls to them for flagellation during holidays. I think they're dying for an inventor to come along and make a battery powered set of remote controlled, color changing fiber optic streamers for night riding.

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Post by Merlin » Oct 27 2014 11:06am

what kick stand is it?

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Post by 1abv » Oct 27 2014 11:54am

While cleaning the unit I noticed an evil sounding crunch from the freewheel..I remember someone saying that it happened to them. I did a search and found that a good cleaning and re-greasing fixed it. So I cleaned mine out w WD40 spraying in the seam until came out the other side (closest to the motor) nice and clean. After that I repacked the bearing with grease with my finger, like how you repack an automotive wheel bearing. Still sounded crunchy. Took it for a ride and the crunch is gone..

I am buying a white industries ENO 16t, the park tool (to be milled to fit the axle) for when the bearing really shits the bed.

Thanks for the info fellas.

On another note Im finding that if im beating on the bike (lots of elevation changes 90% dirt hill climbs, jumping etc.. average speed more than 20mph) im getting 2 miles per AMP. 30.5 miles 15 amps. That is with pedaling.

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Post by Allex » Oct 27 2014 12:14pm

I think that pedaling on the 50 kg bike does not save your battery much if you go aggressively. When you consume 4500 Watts and try to pedal with your 200-250 watts is like pissing in the lake :)

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Post by 1abv » Oct 27 2014 12:29pm

Allex wrote:I think that pedaling on the 50 kg bike does not save your battery much if you go aggressively. When you consume 4500 Watts and try to pedal with your 200-250 watts is like pissing in the lake :)
This is true.... I like to pedal for the workout. It feels weird to not pedal when they are sittin right there at my feet!! If i get even a hair more distance goodie for me maybe that's a placebo! If i didn't pedal the bomber wouldn't make it up some of the hills im hitting. Not for the elevation change but the terrain is loose, rocky and also very steppy.

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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 12:32pm

Saving power when pedaling is really only noticeable at extreme low speeds, like 5 to 10 mph. That doesn't mean pedaling doesn't help though. I think it does. It helps a little with acceleration, and even top speed, but it doesn't extend your range noticeably unless you're going real slow.

For riding in the city pedaling makes a big difference in peoples perception of what it is you're riding. When they see you pedaling, they automatically think bicycle. I try to always pedal when I'm riding around, but it tires me out when I'm going over 35, so then I have to rely on the streamers.
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Post by ryrideswhat » Oct 27 2014 12:36pm

You know, we talk a fair bit here about not drawing attention from the cops, but I'm curious, how many here have actually been stopped by the cops? What happened?

If you haven't, how often do general punters ask about what you're riding? Are they interested or suspicious?
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Post by Theodore Voltaire » Oct 27 2014 12:44pm

ryrideswhat wrote:You know, we talk a fair bit here about not drawing attention from the cops, but I'm curious, how many here have actually been stopped by the cops? What happened?

If you haven't, how often do general punters ask about what you're riding? Are they interested or suspicious?
I've never been stopped on my bomber, but there have been occasions where I've spoken to police officers when I'm riding it. None of them have ever given me any trouble.

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