N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Place for dealers to post items for sale.
User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Aug 16 2019 11:59am

Couple short videos on assembly and new 21700:




coleasterling   100 W

100 W
Posts: 213
Joined: Sep 21 2010 3:37am

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by coleasterling » Aug 19 2019 6:26pm

First time I've tried printing any of these and overall...meh? The parts fit and I think it'll work, but I have a lot more tuning to do. I have to do too much cleanup from retractions right now. The design is really nice, but I do have one question: How do you keep from breaking off the little wings on the top sides of the base? They are really thin and mine just popped right off. The ones on the cover were fine. See picture.

Also, I am building these for a race mini moto right now, but may have a commercial use opportunity later. Are you open to talking about commercial licensing? It'd be for the battery for a product I'm trying to get to market. Feel free to PM.

Thanks!
Attachments
Print 2.JPG
Print 2.JPG (100.55 KiB) Viewed 700 times
Print 1.JPG
Print 1.JPG (104.59 KiB) Viewed 700 times

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Aug 20 2019 12:30am

Couple possible reasons for them braking off easy:
Printing too cold
Damp filament
Also, that part of base is weak alone. When you insert tabs and cells, tab suports it from inside. It basically acts like spacer, and all forces are bared by the lid.

coleasterling   100 W

100 W
Posts: 213
Joined: Sep 21 2010 3:37am

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by coleasterling » Aug 20 2019 4:26pm

I don't *think* it was too cold, but maybe. I tried printing in ABS today and it did MUCH better overall, but I do have some moisture in the filament I need to bake out before doing one for real.

cwah   10 GW

10 GW
Posts: 4204
Joined: Jul 24 2011 5:42am
Location: Between paris and london

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by cwah » Aug 29 2019 7:41pm

Hello

I've got an odk v3 without the battery and no easy way to find a new battery:
https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/odk-u350

The space for battery is 700mm * 155mm * 8mm

Can your kit be up to the task for a big 15s battery?

I'm thinking of 14p15s pack. So I'd combine your 7p to 14p by putting 2 together and make the pack with 30 * 7p to get my pack.

Would that work?
Help me find my stolen electric brompton: http://bit.ly/1a0vbBC and Bosch Sinus B3 http://bit.ly/1eV0WQz

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Aug 30 2019 1:38am

cwah wrote:
Aug 29 2019 7:41pm
Hello

I've got an odk v3 without the battery and no easy way to find a new battery:
https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/odk-u350

The space for battery is 700mm * 155mm * 8mm

Can your kit be up to the task for a big 15s battery?

I'm thinking of 14p15s pack. So I'd combine your 7p to 14p by putting 2 together and make the pack with 30 * 7p to get my pack.

Would that work?
I assume that 8mm is a typo and its actually 80mm.
What you require will take up 672x150x74mm space.

cwah   10 GW

10 GW
Posts: 4204
Joined: Jul 24 2011 5:42am
Location: Between paris and london

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by cwah » Aug 30 2019 4:06am

agniusm wrote:
Aug 30 2019 1:38am
cwah wrote:
Aug 29 2019 7:41pm
Hello

I've got an odk v3 without the battery and no easy way to find a new battery:
https://www.juicedbikes.com/products/odk-u350

The space for battery is 700mm * 155mm * 8mm

Can your kit be up to the task for a big 15s battery?

I'm thinking of 14p15s pack. So I'd combine your 7p to 14p by putting 2 together and make the pack with 30 * 7p to get my pack.

Would that work?
I assume that 8mm is a typo and its actually 80mm.
What you require will take up 672x150x74mm space.
Thanks do you know the price for a kit? And I've seen you mentioning providing enclosure. Would you provide as well?
Help me find my stolen electric brompton: http://bit.ly/1a0vbBC and Bosch Sinus B3 http://bit.ly/1eV0WQz

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Aug 30 2019 5:19am

All prices are on the website. There are other relevant components that you might want or not. I do not sell enclosures as it is too custom of a part to have stock.

quamau   100 mW

100 mW
Posts: 37
Joined: Jan 09 2009 4:35pm

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by quamau » Sep 07 2019 9:49am

Hi agniusm,

just sent you a PM for info on a 12s4p NESE-based pack.

transposon   10 mW

10 mW
Posts: 34
Joined: Nov 24 2011 4:37pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by transposon » Sep 09 2019 6:01pm

Has anyone successfully printed these enclosures with an Ender 3?

User avatar
docnjoj   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 5786
Joined: Sep 29 2007 5:26pm
Location: Fairhope AL

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by docnjoj » Sep 11 2019 1:34pm

I finally got to read this and I would like to order. Let me be clear: You only supply the metal parts and we need to get the plastic enclosures 3-d printed at a place of our choosing (like Shapeways)? You do not 3-d print yourself.
otherDoc

Edit: Just read where you got your printer. This means I can figure prices from the website and use Paypal to pay? I think I want simple. 12S5P 18650 cells kit. Maybe you cn figure price for this old guy?
E-bike stable at our house

Steintrike Mad Max full suspension trike rear Cute 100H going on: Whoops, Cute wheel broke but I fixed it.
Sun USX delta trike EbikeKit small geared front wheel sort of front suspension for wife

Agniusm/A123 AMP 20 36 volts on the Steini has been taken off.
2x16000 Multisport from HK now gone as they died after 2 years
New Luna 10S bottle battery 13.6AH now on mine
Relatively New 10S4Px2 for wife's bike giving 20ah @ 40 volts home made Panasonic from Tumich. BMS's rule.

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Sep 11 2019 11:00pm

transposon wrote:
Sep 09 2019 6:01pm
Has anyone successfully printed these enclosures with an Ender 3?
My machines are Ender 3, but they do not qualify as they are heavily modded. People at skateboard forums print with ender. What problems do you have?

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Sep 11 2019 11:05pm

docnjoj wrote:
Sep 11 2019 1:34pm
I finally got to read this and I would like to order. Let me be clear: You only supply the metal parts and we need to get the plastic enclosures 3-d printed at a place of our choosing (like Shapeways)? You do not 3-d print yourself.
otherDoc

Edit: Just read where you got your printer. This means I can figure prices from the website and use Paypal to pay? I think I want simple. 12S5P 18650 cells kit. Maybe you cn figure price for this old guy?
Here is your list:
12 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/n-e-s-e-module/
11 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/n-e-s-e-series-tab/
optional:
11 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/twin-bolt-cap/
2 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/single-bolt-cap/
1 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/ring-terminal/
1 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/tube-ring-lugs/
1 x https://18650.lt/index.php/product/insulator/

Hope this makes it easier :)

User avatar
docnjoj   100 GW

100 GW
Posts: 5786
Joined: Sep 29 2007 5:26pm
Location: Fairhope AL

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by docnjoj » Sep 12 2019 9:57am

Yes that definitely helps. I gotta wait till my next pension check at the end of the month then............whoopie! Simply brilliant stuff, as always.
otherDoc
E-bike stable at our house

Steintrike Mad Max full suspension trike rear Cute 100H going on: Whoops, Cute wheel broke but I fixed it.
Sun USX delta trike EbikeKit small geared front wheel sort of front suspension for wife

Agniusm/A123 AMP 20 36 volts on the Steini has been taken off.
2x16000 Multisport from HK now gone as they died after 2 years
New Luna 10S bottle battery 13.6AH now on mine
Relatively New 10S4Px2 for wife's bike giving 20ah @ 40 volts home made Panasonic from Tumich. BMS's rule.

transposon   10 mW

10 mW
Posts: 34
Joined: Nov 24 2011 4:37pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by transposon » Sep 12 2019 1:09pm

agniusm wrote:
Sep 11 2019 11:00pm
transposon wrote:
Sep 09 2019 6:01pm
Has anyone successfully printed these enclosures with an Ender 3?
My machines are Ender 3, but they do not qualify as they are heavily modded. People at skateboard forums print with ender. What problems do you have?
I haven't tried printing yet. I was just checking.

transposon   10 mW

10 mW
Posts: 34
Joined: Nov 24 2011 4:37pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by transposon » Sep 22 2019 7:41pm

Hello,

I was looking at the 18650 hardware sets.
https://18650.lt/index.php/product/n-e- ... are-set-2/

I see that they include "tin plated copper series tabs". Are these the same thing as:

https://18650.lt/index.php/product/n-e-s-e-series-tab/

?

Thanks.

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Sep 23 2019 1:36am

Yes. Those are the same.

transposon   10 mW

10 mW
Posts: 34
Joined: Nov 24 2011 4:37pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by transposon » Sep 29 2019 9:12am

I am having difficulty printing these enclosures. I am trying to print the 8p version using the recommended settings. When I get the last cell into the holder, it always pops another cell out.

The metal hardware has not arrived yet, so I am testing the fit without them if that makes a difference.

Also, they seem very thin and flexible, has increasing the infill from 5% ever helped with print strength?

agniusm, do you have any tips or tricks for printing these? I am using a stock ender 3 for the print. Are there any printer upgrades that you think would be helpful for printing these cases?

Thanks.

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Sep 29 2019 9:24am

If you get decent quality, you should not need anything. I print them at 0 infill. You need 4 perimeters 5 bottom layers and 6 top layers. You need to check an option to fill thin gaps. It depends on slicer how its called. If cell is popping out, print 20x20x20mm test cube and see if your printer prints dimentionally correct. You can also uniformly scale 8p enclosure by 1-3%. I have made them with tight tolerances so in times some cells could pop out as their diameter varies by small amount which is enough. But they are snug by default.

transposon   10 mW

10 mW
Posts: 34
Joined: Nov 24 2011 4:37pm
Location: Massachusetts

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by transposon » Sep 29 2019 10:16am

agniusm, thanks for the reply. I have adjusted all of the settings except for Perimeter layers as I cannot find this setting in Cura.

Does anyone have any idea if this setting could be called something else?

edit - I see a setting for # of walls. I wonder if this is the same as perimeter layers.

User avatar
agniusm   10 MW

10 MW
Posts: 2361
Joined: Apr 16 2011 3:06pm
Location: Lithuania, Zarasai
Contact:

Re: N.E.S.E. the no solder module

Post by agniusm » Sep 29 2019 1:09pm

Yes, thats the one. Number of walls

Post Reply