after connecting these wires from the controller, it did not even budge, so I suspect that the voltage is simply too low . Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of arduino but it would be a very good idea because as you say it must be more complicated communication. You can still change the counter from another typically digital model, but I'd rather stay with it
it doesnt allow me to change it A friend said that it may be the fault of the hall sensors of the wrong reading angle.The engine is a copy of the qs 138 70h. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I set everything at 500rpm to 100%?
), and SPORT. Sport is really fun but it can be violent. You can fine tune the response with the "THROTTLE ACC STEP" setting. I recommend starting at 50 or 75 in Linear or Sport and then take it from there. One thing people seem to agree on is that full throttle comes on way too soon. If anyone has a fix for that, I'd love to hear it. Also, I notice at top speeds, the throttle jerks a lot because it is so sensitive. It makes holding a steady speed very difficult and I find myself bucking like I'm on a horse. Again, any advice on that would be helpful.
I think it needs to have a voltage above the minimum setpoint to initialize. I recall something similar when I first tried to turn mine on. I'd check that its a least, say, 70 volts. And simply jumper from B+ to the orange keyswitch input wire.
thank you ,! this is very helpfullWow. I just got an ND72530 and it has explosive power but what a pain it has been to setup. I came from a Kelly KVD controller and it has no flux/field weakening so the top speed is capped early.
I use the Bluetooth connection through the Android app.
That's all for now. Geez.
- Here are some tips I have learned that may help some people getting started:
- The orange wire by itself needs to have battery voltage (or at least 12v?) to trigger the unit on.
- The 3 speed switch wiring needs to be addressed now or it will cause confusion. If you aren't going to use a 3 speed switch, there is a single wire jumper that should be wrapped around the 3 wire connector. Click that in and it will engage high speed only. If you don't connect the jumper, it will be set to the middle speed setting. If for some reason you don't have the jumper, not a problem. Just go to the parameters later and set "mid speed line ratio / mid speed phase ratio / mid speed RPM" all to 100% and max settings.
- Do not go to your phone's bluetooth settings and try to pair your controller to your phone. Just open the app and go to to the "comm" tab. Hit "scan" at the top, click the YUAN item, and then click "connect" on the top right. It will say "connected" if successful".
- Your controller will probably beep 2 times, then one long beep, and then keep repeating. This means you need to do the auto learn. Before you do this, I highly recommend going to the Parameters page and clicking on the EXPERT button to access more functions. Scroll to the FUNCTIONS group and disable the FOLLOW item. Set your battery voltage and line/phase current, max RPM correctly, then begin auto learn. If you don't know the max RPM or rated RPM, just put 12,000 or something for both and the auto learn should sort it out.
- Auto learn: If you have a chain driven motor, I suggest disconnecting the chain. Your motor will spin backwards and could damage it. Go to the GRAPH tab and click "Auto Learn", then turn the throttle to 100% and hold it down. The motor will go forward and backward, then it will beep and let you know it is complete. Let go of the throttle, go back to the parameters page and hit SAVE.
- Sometimes when you hit SAVE, the follow function gets turned back on. Also, some parameters (or all?) seem to save automatically. I'm not sure what happens if you never click save. Maybe when you turn off the controller, any changes will be lost?
- Field/flux weakening: I just barely found out something monumental yesterday that was causing me so much grief. If you want to use this feature, you need to make sure a couple of things are enabled. First is the "WEAK CHARACTER" setting. Apparently everyone agrees to set it to "FAST". I did that but it didn't help at all. The one setting I finally fiddle with was "WEAK RESPONSE". I set that to 0 and it took my motor RPM's from 7500 to over 10,000. It revved so high I actually got a hall sensor error. Before I did changed that setting, it was set to NONE. Apparently "0" and "NONE" aren't the same thing.
- Throttle: You have ECO, LINE (LINEAR
- Regen: If you want to use regen with a button, hook up the two LOW BRAKE wires to your switch, then change the FOLLOW setting to "EABS WHEN BREAK VALID". If you want to regen when you release the throttle, then pick "EABS WHEN RELEASE THROTTLE". Note this last setting won't work if you have a vehicle with a freewheel. You'll need to weld the freewheel solid. Then go to the ENERGY REGERNATE group settings to choose how much % effect to apply at a given RPM. My setting for "FREE THROTTLE" is "0". I'm not sure what that does but my regen does work.
- Regen settings: The "MAX BACK CURRENT" setting should be 25-50% higher than the "STOP BACK CURRENT". I don't know much about this so if anyone care's to elaborate on how to set this properly, I'm all ears.
- If your top speed is still limited, go to the "RATIOS IN SPEED" group and set the "LIMIT SPEED" to something higher.
- I'd love to know more details about the "PID PARAMETERS" group. So far, I've left mine as is but I feel like the acceleration jerking is caused by some wrong settings here. I'll have to dive into it.
- If your battery % is showing up weird on the GRAPH page, go to the "0 BATT COEFF" and "FULL BATT COEFF" settings. Adjust the FULL settings to a number that gets you to 100% when fully charged. When you are low on juice, adjust the 0 BATT COEFF settings to match.
Very useful! I’ll be reading back through this once I get my controllerWow. I just got an ND72530 and it has explosive power but what a pain it has been to setup. I came from a Kelly KVD controller and it has no flux/field weakening so the top speed is capped early.
I use the Bluetooth connection through the Android app.
That's all for now. Geez.
- Here are some tips I have learned that may help some people getting started:
- The orange wire by itself needs to have battery voltage (or at least 12v?) to trigger the unit on.
- The 3 speed switch wiring needs to be addressed now or it will cause confusion. If you aren't going to use a 3 speed switch, there is a single wire jumper that should be wrapped around the 3 wire connector. Click that in and it will engage high speed only. If you don't connect the jumper, it will be set to the middle speed setting. If for some reason you don't have the jumper, not a problem. Just go to the parameters later and set "mid speed line ratio / mid speed phase ratio / mid speed RPM" all to 100% and max settings.
- Do not go to your phone's bluetooth settings and try to pair your controller to your phone. Just open the app and go to to the "comm" tab. Hit "scan" at the top, click the YUAN item, and then click "connect" on the top right. It will say "connected" if successful".
- Your controller will probably beep 2 times, then one long beep, and then keep repeating. This means you need to do the auto learn. Before you do this, I highly recommend going to the Parameters page and clicking on the EXPERT button to access more functions. Scroll to the FUNCTIONS group and disable the FOLLOW item. Set your battery voltage and line/phase current, max RPM correctly, then begin auto learn. If you don't know the max RPM or rated RPM, just put 12,000 or something for both and the auto learn should sort it out.
- Auto learn: If you have a chain driven motor, I suggest disconnecting the chain. Your motor will spin backwards and could damage it. Go to the GRAPH tab and click "Auto Learn", then turn the throttle to 100% and hold it down. The motor will go forward and backward, then it will beep and let you know it is complete. Let go of the throttle, go back to the parameters page and hit SAVE.
- Sometimes when you hit SAVE, the follow function gets turned back on. Also, some parameters (or all?) seem to save automatically. I'm not sure what happens if you never click save. Maybe when you turn off the controller, any changes will be lost?
- Field/flux weakening: I just barely found out something monumental yesterday that was causing me so much grief. If you want to use this feature, you need to make sure a couple of things are enabled. First is the "WEAK CHARACTER" setting. Apparently everyone agrees to set it to "FAST". I did that but it didn't help at all. The one setting I finally fiddle with was "WEAK RESPONSE". I set that to 0 and it took my motor RPM's from 7500 to over 10,000. It revved so high I actually got a hall sensor error. Before I did changed that setting, it was set to NONE. Apparently "0" and "NONE" aren't the same thing.
- Throttle: You have ECO, LINE (LINEAR
- Regen: If you want to use regen with a button, hook up the two LOW BRAKE wires to your switch, then change the FOLLOW setting to "EABS WHEN BREAK VALID". If you want to regen when you release the throttle, then pick "EABS WHEN RELEASE THROTTLE". Note this last setting won't work if you have a vehicle with a freewheel. You'll need to weld the freewheel solid. Then go to the ENERGY REGERNATE group settings to choose how much % effect to apply at a given RPM. My setting for "FREE THROTTLE" is "0". I'm not sure what that does but my regen does work.
- Regen settings: The "MAX BACK CURRENT" setting should be 25-50% higher than the "STOP BACK CURRENT". I don't know much about this so if anyone care's to elaborate on how to set this properly, I'm all ears.
- If your top speed is still limited, go to the "RATIOS IN SPEED" group and set the "LIMIT SPEED" to something higher.
- I'd love to know more details about the "PID PARAMETERS" group. So far, I've left mine as is but I feel like the acceleration jerking is caused by some wrong settings here. I'll have to dive into it.
- If your battery % is showing up weird on the GRAPH page, go to the "0 BATT COEFF" and "FULL BATT COEFF" settings. Adjust the FULL settings to a number that gets you to 100% when fully charged. When you are low on juice, adjust the 0 BATT COEFF settings to match.
Thank you, this did it. how wierd! thanks for the help
by Emmo zone if you mean the V6 ninja, yes i installed a fardriver on it, much better than votol
