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Rec note and basic msg in email was not lkinked...but will respond, Agnius did send link and I did as shown. Failed! So figured bad BMS, ans found our of balance cells. 3rd failure, so removed cells, rechecked all, and neighbor got bike,,,,Got to be bummr BMS.....

Same for ebikes, I must presume, 10s4p pack. Have no clue if balanced, but bike quit[ so replaced 2 cells later. Pack cells was way out of balance.....I switched cells and same thing happened,,,,? Bike quit. No clue,til now,,,,, and, FWIW BMS Balance Wire Connections

https://endless-sphere.com/sphere/threads/bms-balance-wire-connections.119461/

So,, save BMS's peculiarities aside, attach all balance wires to plus cells or groups....why?

Thanks! A beginning..., Balance wires...... Figuring BMS determines two.

No formal procedure! Research produces varied schemes, from those who are lucky, those that copy others, to those who do one way for Ebikes and anther way for motorized long-boards,,,,Agnius makes some good items and has success, Spinning Magnets has repeated success; two genius dodgers,;two...

Will go with ebike thingy.....

Thank-you, learned much but remain leary....i plan to replace a 12v wetcell with 18650s...to power a Minn-Kota fishing motor that is used to power sailboat. need to very speed, so need controller....which?

EZ motors are fine and low cost...but intrgued by the All Axle idea...but did EZ and liked... True my battery adventures are odd...but figure I can do...and if not, dim... Am now doing a 7s job for mower, using easily replace able NESE modules...no more madness tearing apart a pack to tind low...

Weight? Grin's All-Axle is CNC's by order, very light! Aside: Monarchs like Goldenrod?

Close, but my measurements might be a couple degrees off...fairly steep, but isn't it best to be off a bit? Figure EZ kit maakes most sense. not a speeder. @ Tom...Have yard full of golden rod and milk weed....neighbors no like, surely....and have seen only 6 monarchs and we used to see them...

Hi! 21 degree grade... You have an All Axle (Grin) motor?

Figured to go with EZ like last time...but All-Axle motor got my attention...seems it will do hill! Am still making a choice 'tween them at 36v level!!! Dang more complicated than gas...to me! HS physics notwithstanding...

Figured to go with EZ like last time...but all-axle got my attention...seems it will do hill! Am still making a choice 'tween them at 36v level!!! Dang more complicated than gas...to me!

i Forgot investigation of cell. takes time, for me, and must report one cell, in mid pack was too low, but NESE packs made change easy. I gave bike to former neighbor, (before I found problem, so must wait on current status reporting0...but must say the NESE packs made the investigation process...

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Ag, I did as you advised and now bike quit, just being sure of it...have not checked indiv cells, to diagnose problem...just being careful and learning.

Thanks. Guess, range is goal...and juice to go up grades. Sort of settled on Grin Tech EZ hub kit for 36v 10s 4p kit using NESE modules... And, as expected, no limits... And will hook up like a skateboarder.

Was going to expand pack from 10s3p...to 4 or more p is there a limit to "p" cells...besides space etc?

@ Mark....been close but never fished that section of Rush...recall once me and buddy was down lower and fihished and guy walked up with monster brown, might a bin 30in...we were fly fishing he was worming....and from IowA....he said was new to him...should gone to worms sooner...Used to legally...

I must say, I have not ridden it...bought some years back for son, who, apparently did not favor, as he gave back...decided to use with front wheel elec motor kit from Grin...geared to climb .5 mile hill to home. Idea is comfort, Had a a 20' Swift (Xootr) and gave it to neighbor fam....had Grin...

No one, it seems, rides a Dynamik...c'est la vie! Spendy rig is comfy though! Too spendy, really! But have one to do...as 36v with 10s 4p pac and Grin hub (front) kit!!!

Anyone, do this...? I have one and plan to use Grin hub kit...on front wheel. Also, last year I built a 10s3p pack with BMS using Agniusm's packs after Vruzend failure. Also, I did not know how to hook up balance wires(was embarrassed to ask), so hooked up the wires to ends of cell packs and...

Thanks Larsh, I just added wire to group and seemed to work. Still doing but anal, needed to know how/why!

In ahort, i have built three (3) 18650 battery packs. All 36v, 10s3p, with BMSs...where does on place balance wires on Agniusm's packs? All my references show "between" cells, but this cannot be done with these packs! It is all or nada...but has to be a way, as his packs are the best and used...