Are EVs the Future? What Do You Think?

[Avnish001]

Hey everyone,
Electric vehicles are becoming more popular every day, with more options and better infrastructure. From tools to compare EV models to apps that help locate EV charging stations in India, it’s easier than ever to consider making the switch.

Do you think EVs are practical now, or is there still a long way to go? Would love to hear your quick thoughts!

 

[ZeroEm]

Hey everyone,
Electric vehicles are becoming more popular every day, with more options and better infrastructure. From tools to compare EV models to apps that help locate EV charging stations in India, it’s easier than ever to consider making the switch.

Do you think EVs are practical now, or is there still a long way to go? Would love to hear your quick thoughts!

Ask the rail road is Electric motors are the way to go. How about your blender it would really roar with a two stroke.
We only tolerate ICE away from us. Electric cars did not take off because of the batteries. Remember the technology we are using now has been around for a long while the oil companies were buying up the patients and sitting on them. What happened was world trade. Ask China if they like electric? No they don't but it is the only way to keep from killing 10's of thousands of Chinese.

 

[amberwolf]

From tools to compare EV models to apps that help locate EV charging stations in India, it’s easier than ever to consider making the switch.

Do you think EVs are practical now, or is there still a long way to go?

We don't really have the info you're after; you would need to tell *us* about how practical they are in India, since that is what you are asking about.

So far all the threads you're posting appear to be just article-fishing-bait, without you interacting with us in your threads as an actual discussion.

 

[neptronix]

@Avnish001 what is the point of starting all these very general discussions without any interest in participating in them?

 

[dgc]

For what it is worth:- Not enough charging points, people have to queue up, can lead to verbal abuse. Councils install charging points and you find out they have turn the outputs down. Road tax was zero on EV's originally now government find they are losing lots money so EV's will now be taxed. EV's are still too expensive in comparison to diesel / petrol equivalents, unless you buy an expensive EV we still have the "range worry" especially when you find charging points are lacking in out of town area's, vandalized, out of order or wrong connectors. Years back the government said everyone must use a diesel powered car. Ho hum.

 

[Chalo]

EVs are the future because they're inherently flexible about energy sources. Stinking gas cars are obligated to run on stinking petroleum, but e-cars can run on coal, natural gas, wind, sunshine, once-wild rivers, deadly radioactivity, plastic waste, or even the burning bodies of fascists.

Also, gas motors get increasingly inefficient and toxic the smaller they are, whereas there's no lower limit to how small an excellently efficient electric motor can be. So there's an opportunity to incentivize e-micromobility where people live, but also banish personal cars that are both heavier and faster than private airplanes to outlying facilities where they can be treated like airplanes. As in, lose your license if you land one in town on purpose.

 

[stancecoke]

Do you think EVs are practical now, or is there still a long way to go?

Don't discuss it, just try it.
I stopped arguing with people, who have thousands concerns, why an EV will never work for them, but never have driven a BEV.
I tell them: Drive a BEV for half a year, then we can discuss.

 

[harrisonpatm]

I'd like to see if the forum can stop responding to this and all of @Avnish001 threads in earnest, because we're pretty sure it's a bot trying to generate and scrape content. If it's a real user, we want this person to respond in earnest. So we don't want to lock the thread down entirely.

 

[dgc]

I drive a petrol electric hybrid at the moment because there are only four local charging points close to me, there are another four close but they are in a company car park for their employee's use only. Next two charging points are just over 10 miles away, when I have passed them there is usually two cars using them. We have a couple of homes with wall chargers around but the owners both have Tesla company cars, the points fitted free of charger, I was told I would have to pay best part of £800. No infrastructure exists the government doe's not know what it's doing, London I would guess has points everywhere, rural areas forget it.

 

[dgc]

Well had my say, lets see if Avnish001 responds.

 

[Chalo]

I like the idea of training bots in anti-capitalism and ecological principles.

 

[Comrade]

I like the idea of training bots in anti-capitalism and ecological principles.

Somebody went to a "protest" today.

 

[Avnish001]

Well had my say, lets see if Avnish001 responds.

Yeaah broo, I'm in

 

[Avnish001]

@Avnish001 what is the point of starting all these very general discussions without any interest in participating in them?

sorry to disappoint you but i am reading all the stuff. actually me english is not so good to make a proper conversations. i only read the thoughts of people.

 

[ZeroEm]

Thoughts, ok!
Here is one of my thoughts. EV's would be more widely accepted if people were not lied to about them.
EV's are much better at most jobs and more durable and save you more money than ICE.

People want to argue that electric motors are not better. ICE cars can not run with out electric motors, they are hybrids from the first days they got rid of the hand cranks to start them. They have only added another electric motor to the drive train.

 

[amberwolf]

sorry to disappoint you but i am reading all the stuff. actually me english is not so good to make a proper conversations. i only read the thoughts of people.

Sure seems good enough in your other "posts", including your "reply" over here:

Are Solid-State Batteries the Game Changer?

Lately, I’ve been reading a lot about solid-state batteries and how they could revolutionize electric vehicles. With promises of faster charging, longer range, and better safety, they seem like the next big thing in EV tech. Toyota, BMW, and even some startups are investing heavily in this area...

endless-sphere.com

Absolutely agree, the path to SSB commercialization is far more evolutionary than revolutionary. The hype often overshadows the technical and production challenges that still need solving. Sodium-ion’s rapid progress is definitely one to watch too. It’ll be interesting to see which tech proves both scalable and cost-effective in the real world.

 

[ZeroEm]

Here’s What It Costs To Charge a Tesla Monthly vs. Using Gas for a Nissan Rogue

This is an example of why EV's are the future. Now I think this comparison is laughable but still proves my point.
Issues with the comparison above they want to look for the most expensive charging and use an ICE with 33mpg.
Most here in my city do not drive anything that gets 33mph, maybe a few. I have never used a charging station my Kw's are $0.12 not $0.25 or more.

 

[JackFlorey]

EVs will continue to gain in popularity.

Factors that will drive them:
- Performance. If you want the fastest accelerating car on the road, it will be an EV.
- Cost. LFP and (eventually) sodium batteries will drive prices far below those of gas cars.
- Safety. EVs already catch fire far less often than gas cars, and can be run in enclosed spaces with no risk of death.
- Design flexibility. You can do far more with an EV in terms of design because the motors are tiny and batteries can go anywhere.
- Cost of ownership. With cheap solar and very little maintenance, EVs will be far cheaper to own than a gas car.

Factors that will slow them down:
- Gas price. At some point gas prices will collapse as demand drops. Thus the cost advantage of charging vs gas will be largely eliminated.
- Nostalgia. Many people are resistant to change, and want what they had when they were 20. (These people don't live forever though.)
- Oil company incentives. Oil companies fear the loss of the gas car market, and will do everything in their power to keep that market alive.

 

[classicalgas]

EV's are practical now, but to take the best advantage of the tech, we need to make two and three ton SUVs and pickups punishingly expensive to run.

It's the necessity of sharing the road with those tanks on wheels that's keeping small EV's out of mainstream use.

 

[Chalo]

EV's are practical now, but to take the best advantage of the tech, we need to make two and three ton SUVs and pickups punishingly expensive to run.

Just ban them from cities. Treat them like airplanes, which you are allowed to own and use, but not operate out of your house in a populated area.

 

[classicalgas]

Just ban them from cities. Treat them like airplanes, which you are allowed to own and use, but not operate out of your house in a populated area.

That would be a good start, but it leaves those of us in rural/suburban areas of the county still having to deal with them.

We have guys around here that own private airports for their small planes, mostly they're less obnoxious than the typical pickup driver. If what they fly has more than a single seat( with a max weight of 260 lbs) they have to pass a training program that makes getting a license to drive a three ton pickup look like filling out a rent agreement for a snow blower.

Don't even get me going about the stupidity of "flying cars"

 

[ZeroEm]

There is a lot we can do. It takes effort, had a hard time convincing my mother she did not need a truck. Today ask her if she needs a truck, the answer is "WHY". It took some effort but got it done.

The US government still give subsidies to the oil companies! That in it self baffles be to death. So lets not make EVs cheap make ICE expensive. Tax Gasonline, Coal, motor oil. Tax ICE for cleaning up all the oil on the road, hydrocarbons in the Air, noise pollution.

Ban the diesel generators in trains make them put up power lines.

 

[Hillhater]

EV's are practical now, but to take the best advantage of the tech, we need to make two and three ton SUVs and pickups punishingly expensive to run.

If EVs are practical and viable financially now, it should not be neccessary to “force” the market to adopt them. ,
..and what about those trades and businesses that rely on 2-3+ ton pick ups and trucks for towing etc,..as well as the RV market
Hmm, i think France tried something similar a few years ago increasing gas and diesel tax, ,….it effectively forced the government out of power !..

The Champs-Élysées in Paris became a blazing battleground. Here's why.

"The forgotten middle class" has taken to the country's streets. "They feel like the political elite is forgetting about them," one expert said.

www.nbcnews.com

Treat them like airplanes, which you are allowed to own and use, but not operate out of your house in a populated area.

..pity that doesnt seem to have worked for helecopters also !

 

[Hillhater]

Ban the diesel generators in trains make them put up power lines.

You do realise there are 160,000+ miles of train lines in the USA ?
..and electrification is not cheap…
. “The Caltrain electrification project cost $14 million per mile“
how much are you prepared to pay ?

 

[ZeroEm]

The trains are already electric.
I get what you are saying, we need the lines no matter what. they could build a few thousand gas plants and fire them up when the train going to come past.

We need a higher tax on diesel. maybe batteries would work a car or two of used EV batteries.

Starting to see articles on using the blimps again, the cruse ships of the sky. put some solar on them and go around the world at 3 mph.