New Forte Trike

[jayel]

Trike throttle goes from zero to governed speed of 32K's no matter what level PAS is set at. Distributor replaced the trike but replacement does the same thing. Any suggestions? thanks.

 

[Chalo]

Throttle is probably a full power/full speed override (which can be useful at traffic crossings). If the PAS levels work, use PAS instead.

 

[jayel]

Thanks for your reply. PAS goes to max once pedals are turned. No different than the throttle. It seems everything by passes the controller.

 

[fill]

The different pas levels should each have a different cut off speed.. on my bike pas level 1 is barely moving speed so its a kick to get started.. all the way upto pas level 5 set at the speed limit..

Its a different style of ridding especially if you have any history with ICE bikes, Pedal Assist, is just that, and you manage your speed with the pas level and cracking of the brakes to use the brake cut offs, or stopping pedalling, to disengage the motor as and when needed.. And as much input or as little on the pedals as you want to provide too of course..

Fwiw Day1 i was online joining forums and had ordered a kt controller so i could enable more control than just change the distance metric on the display, and enable a traditional' speed control... However by the time the thing arrived i had overcome my initial misconceptions and am content with my kit conversion with its limited eu/uk compliant firmware as is.. ( the kt controller was used on my 2nd ebike so not wasted..)

 

[offGridDownUnder]

Any suggestions?

I searched on that name, and found this:
Forte Trike

Can you confirm that is what you have? Any details on options you selected?

The page states "Eiwol" motor, and shows a front hub motor. Can you take pictures of the motor showing any labels clearly?

It has a motor, and what looks like a 'Silverfish' type battery - can you identify another box/item anywhere that could be the controller? It may be near or integrated into the housing of the battery, or elsewhere. The controller will be handling the battery power into the motor so it's unlikely to have very thin wires - I'd expect something more robust - at least the same gauge as the biggest wires going into the motor. If you can identify the controller, or just find another something with wires coming out if it, take pictures of that showing any labels.

 

[jayel]

The different pas levels should each have a different cut off speed.. on my bike pas level 1 is barely moving speed so its a kick to get started.. all the way upto pas level 5 set at the speed limit..

Its a different style of ridding especially if you have any history with ICE bikes, Pedal Assist, is just that, and you manage your speed with the pas level and cracking of the brakes to use the brake cut offs, or stopping pedalling, to disengage the motor as and when needed.. And as much input or as little on the pedals as you want to provide too of course..

Fwiw Day1 i was online joining forums and had ordered a kt controller so i could enable more control than just change the distance metric on the display, and enable a traditional' speed control... However by the time the thing arrived i had overcome my initial misconceptions and am content with my kit conversion with its limited eu/uk compliant firmware as is.. ( the kt controller was used on my 2nd ebike so not wasted..)

I am familiar with PAS as I have another Forte trike that works exactly as you described. The other trike is from another build and only has one speed 0- to max no matter where you set the PAS levels. I have tried a new wheel and motor as well as a new controller. Same results. I'm beginning to wonder if the magnet controller in the pedals are screwed? Not sure what I do if they are or, for that matter, how to check them.

 

[jayel]

I searched on that name, and found this:
Forte Trike

Can you confirm that is what you have? Any details on options you selected?

The page states "Eiwol" motor, and shows a front hub motor. Can you take pictures of the motor showing any labels clearly?

It has a motor, and what looks like a 'Silverfish' type battery - can you identify another box/item anywhere that could be the controller? It may be near or integrated into the housing of the battery, or elsewhere. The controller will be handling the battery power into the motor so it's unlikely to have very thin wires - I'd expect something more robust - at least the same gauge as the biggest wires going into the motor. If you can identify the controller, or just find another something with wires coming out if it, take pictures of that showing any labels.

You have the correct trike. There are no labels on the motor. It is in the front wheel and is controlled by a controller on the handle bars. I have switched out the front wheel for a new one and switched out the controller for a new one. Picture of controller attached. No change. Still goes from zero to max no matter what PAS you choose. I think I've ruled out the motor and controller, so the only other thing could be the magnet controller in the pedals?

 

[offGridDownUnder]

switched out the controller for a new one

I'll need to take your word on that being a controller. I would expect that to be a display, but not the motor controller, although it could be. I can't see the wiring to really tell how it's all hooked up.

Are the only wires that go into the motor coming from that display? It might also be useful to upload a view of the back and any labels that are on it.

You mention magnets by the pedals. Please keep in mind there are at least several different physical systems for providing these conceptual parts and we aren't all looking at the same thing.

There are wires from the controller by the pedals? Can you provide pictures?

The more, the quicker someone might be able to recognize.

 

[fill]

I am familiar with PAS as I have another Forte trike that works exactly as you described. The other trike is from another build and only has one speed 0- to max no matter where you set the PAS levels. I have tried a new wheel and motor as well as a new controller. Same results. I'm beginning to wonder if the magnet controller in the pedals are screwed? Not sure what I do if they are or, for that matter, how to check them.

My error, I took new in here to mean also new to ebikes.. Thanks for the clarification..

Afaik the 'magnet sensor' if a basic cadence sensor simply pulses in a valid pattern to indicate pedalling, if at fault the motor would not run.

but if a torque sensor? it could be at fault signalling full torque ?? but if a disk with magnets and a pick-up sensor its more likely to be a cadence sensor not torque sensor..

The controller often a silver box, but could also be embedded in a battery case or base or elsewhere?? is generally separate from the display unit pictured and is now sounding suspect.. -it will be the hub/centre of all the cable connections, everything will plug into it

 

[Gruesome]

One of the pictures on the linked website clearly shows 'Bafang' written on the motor.
I'd assume the controller sits below the battery, either in the same box, or a separate box just below. The pictures seem to show what looks like a box below the battery box.

 

[jayel]

I'll need to take your word on that being a controller. I would expect that to be a display, but not the motor controller, although it could be. I can't see the wiring to really tell how it's all hooked up.

Are the only wires that go into the motor coming from that display? It might also be useful to upload a view of the back and any labels that are on it.

You mention magnets by the pedals. Please keep in mind there are at least several different physical systems for providing these conceptual parts and we aren't all looking at the same thing.

There are wires from the controller by the pedals? Can you provide pictures?

The more, the quicker someone might be able to recognize.

Thanks for getting back to me. You're right, the picture I sent is the display. I'm attaching pictures from the control box. There is a wire with a female end coming from the controller, but no corresponding wire in the harness. All connections appear to be tight. I'm also sending a picture of the front wheel. There are no markings except what's visible in the photo. Any ideas?

 

[RichardHe]

As the throttle has two method of work, most default stepless speed regulation like yours，and another choice is followed the max speed of the current PAS levels. It been set before delivery.